Crash off Miami beach

[aeronautic1]

Overloaded

18 pax with holiday luggage, gifts, supplies etc... you know this airplane was at max gross or more.

 

[AIR2MUD]

... it's associated with the PT6

Do me a favor, Mr. NTSB.

My friend was on that aircraft. How about skipping the speculation? It would be much appreciated.

Prayers for the families and friends of those who lost their lives in the accident would be much more appropriate right now.

Thanks.

 

[AIR2MUD]

COULD THIS BE AL-QAIDA??!?!?!?


Renew The Patriot Act - Quick!!!!

Are you kidding me? You'd use a tragedy like this as a sounding board for political B.S.?

Shut your hole, and don't post on this topic anymore.

 

[aeronautic1]

Hey ButtPlug

I am sure the pilots rode that horse all the way in. Too bad that they and there pax were killed. Betcha it's an MX fokker.

And, that was 691 posts - not hours.

 

[AIR2MUD]

18 pax with holiday luggage, gifts, supplies etc... you know this airplane was at max gross or more.

Dude, just shut up and go away. I find it hard to believe you have a military and civilian background with comments like this.

Most military aviators know better than to speculate or throw out comments when there are people who have died in a plane crash.

I know the copilot, and I guarantee you, if he did the weight and balance it was good to go.

Now shut the f up and go away.

 

[VampyreGTX]

Aeronautic, how about a little bit of sympathy in your posts?! Don't you think your tone and comments are a little out of line?!

Anyway, one of the SAR team members that was diving stated that they had pulled an adult, a 7-year old girl and a baby out of the wreckage alive but unconscious.

They are reporting 14 confirmed dead, 20 on the plane, 3 of which were infants.

Just cause it's 20 doesn't mean they were at or over gross either, 3 were infants (so under 30 lb's each as an infant is under 2 YO) at least one child that's 7, so about 50-60 there. So, if all the rest were adults, that leaves 16 adults.

I just can't believe the unsympathetic posts that I've been seeing more and more of on here.

 

[Av8rPHX]

Wow,I just saw that picture someone captured from their cell phone on MSNBC.. very sad

 

[aeronautic1]

Bla Bla Bla

"I know that if the my buddy did the weight and balance, it was good to go."

You obviously have never worked for any Florida to Bahamas operator. Over gross is a way of life.

I still stand by my speculation that it was a wing failure. The PT6 cannot be ruled out as it is notorious for problems.

Speculate? Sure. Why should WSVN have all the fun.

BTW... my prayers to the crew, passengers and their family. There is a God, obviously.

 

[Easy Mac]

Now they are saying in-flight breakup&& Guess that's to be expected with a 60 year old airframe.

Any bets on how many times the word "godspeed" will be used in this thread? I say 3,498

 

[BoxFlyr]

Fox news reporting all aboard confirmed dead, very sad indeed.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

damn this sucks

godspeed

 

[aeronautic1]

Very Sad Indeed

Damn!! Just saw the phone photo in MSNBC.

Godspeed

 

[VampyreGTX]

Is that photo after impacting the water or is that the smoke trailing the plane as it was crashing?

Once again, air2mud, my thoughts and prayers with everyone associated with this accident.

 

[HangerRat]

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/051219/051219_crashpic_hmed_2p.standard.jpg

that pic kinda sucks

 

[Swass]

God bless them and their families, awful tragedy, especially so close to Christmas.