Corporate or Merlin Air?

[Lonestar]

Skylane...

Yes, you are ill informed. There can only be one PIC on any flight and that is the guy that signs for the plane - he is called "The Captain". Sitting in the right seat (even if you are the Pilot Flying) in no way, means that you can log the time as PIC (even if you are typed in the plane).

 

[Trout]

Having a PFT program on your resume is a major DISadvantage. Dont you get it?

Why? I know former Merlin pilots, who paid, who now fly for FEDEX, United, DHL, Alaska, and Northwest. PFT didn't hurt their careers.

 

[hopeful]

I would like to see how these fellas do in the "new" world of aviation. Jobs will no longer be handed out. I guess we will wait and see.

 

[Trout]

I take it you paid for your original spot at AMF?

Why would you assume that?

 

[100LL... Again!]

Lonestar-

Actually LOGGING is different than serving. I have read the FAA legal department interpretations of the logging issue, and an SIC can log as PIC legs on which they are the flying pilot. IF THEY ARE TYPED (for A/C over 12,500 or jets).

Multiple Feds have confirmed this. This type of PIC, however, is NOT RECOGNIZED by 99% of all airlines as real PIC time. It is SIC as far as they are concerned.

Someone made the point that 'legitimate turbine time' could be logged at one of these jobs. Even if you play it safe and log it all as SIC, this perfectly legal loggable time may not carry much weight with a pilot interviewer. They do not look at this time blindly: "Oh looky, he's got turbine time!"

They will carefully consider whether you were a pilot or a 135 qualified PASSENGER. They know ALL about PFT, and the fact that the training is NOT the same as REAL airline training.

 

[Lonestar]

100LL-

I know you're not bustin' my chops on this issue and yes, I know that people can find creative ways to log their time. You are right, someone CAN LEGALLY log PIC in an aircraft over 12500 (if they are typed) but as you alluded to - this is chicken shlt time. I have a hard time believing that any self respecting 135 captain would log only SIC as the PNF while his snotty nosed, 400 hr, bought his window seat PFT right-seater was logging PIC on his legs. As I said earlier...there can only be one captain.

 

[SquirrelDog]

Lonestar

I heard that!!!

nice post Lonstar,

Squirreldog

 

[Trout]

Because usually the only ones who support, condone or can even stomach the fact that some people would even consider PFT are those that did it themselves.

Where in my orginal post did I "support, condone or can even stomach" anything? I wrote what I've experienced. The people I know who have PFT'd have done very well for themselves. I also know people who have not PFT'd and are also flying for a major. Is this a contradication? If I PFT'd shouldn't I bash the non-PFT'ers? Because I obviously support, condone, and stomach (how dramatic) PFT.

 

[Trout]

Fair enough. And I despise PFT like most reasonable minded pilots.

 

[Lonestar]

Now...don't ya'll feel better?