Continental March 2010 Performance

[luckytohaveajob]

Frank Lorenzo knew exactly what a CAL pilot would do. And every CAL manager since has know what a CAL pilot will do because CAL pilots do whatever their told.

CAL management is often cited as the best in the industry. Is the management so good or the pilots so weak?

 

[mamba20]

Since it hasn't been said yet I'll go ahead and do it. . . . . . Mesa Sucks!

 

[mamba20]

Frank Lorenzo knew exactly what a CAL pilot would do. And every CAL manager since has know what a CAL pilot will do because CAL pilots do whatever their told.

CAL management is often cited as the best in the industry. Is the management so good or the pilots so weak?

Up until 2005 it was the latter. Its a different ball game now.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

No indication to the contrary has been shown. 2006 hires thumping their chests means nothing.

I know CAL pilots who flying 95 hours a month, are ok not getting paid for training or deadhead, not worried about scope, have no problem with the bidding system or scheduling, and presently enjoy CAL just the way it is. These types of individuals are not unusual at CAL.

If CAL was so different today verse the last 27 years the discontent would have materialized into operational disruptions. CAL's DOT metrics are status quo. So where is all this rage and anger?

CAL pilots are the bottom feeders of the industry. CAL has always had the worst contract of all the legacies and always will.

 

[thor2j]

No indication to the contrary has been shown. 2006 hires thumping their chests means nothing.

I know CAL pilots who flying 95 hours a month, are ok not getting paid for training or deadhead, not worried about scope, have no problem with the bidding system or scheduling, and presently enjoy CAL just the way it is. These types of individuals are not unusual at CAL.

If CAL was so different today verse the last 27 years the discontent would have materialized into operational disruptions. CAL's DOT metrics are status quo. So where is all this rage and anger?

CAL pilots are the bottom feeders of the industry. CAL has always had the worst contract of all the legacies and always will.

Boy, you really have NO clue what you're talking about.

Please get you facts straight before you shoot that mouth off again.

Now go back under your bridge troll!!

 

[Ex737Driver]

No indication to the contrary has been shown. 2006 hires thumping their chests means nothing.

I know CAL pilots who flying 95 hours a month, are ok not getting paid for training or deadhead, not worried about scope, have no problem with the bidding system or scheduling, and presently enjoy CAL just the way it is. These types of individuals are not unusual at CAL.

If CAL was so different today verse the last 27 years the discontent would have materialized into operational disruptions. CAL's DOT metrics are status quo. So where is all this rage and anger?

CAL pilots are the bottom feeders of the industry. CAL has always had the worst contract of all the legacies and always will.

Unless you are flying the line, the two guys you know at CAL constitute a minority.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Boy, you really have NO clue what you're talking about.

Please get you facts straight before you shoot that mouth off again.

Now go back under your bridge troll!!

It will be fun to see CAL pay four times the 2008 UAL/CAL deal costs to merge. And the name calling is interesting coming from CAL pilot. Since 1983 CAL pilots don't call anyone any names but instead get called names.

 

[whymeworry?]

CAL's stock price has risen as much as UAL's. The merger wouldn't cost any more in a stock swap (which is most likely what it would be engineered around).

What HASN'T changed is UAL's balance sheet. Their debt would have sunk CAL had we merged. Until they get that under control, they're not going to make a good merger candidate for anyone.

DAL/NW's debt is the 800 lb gorilla in the room right now. If they don't do an equity for debt swap before the next market crash, they're going to be facing problems too.

 

[flygirlqt]

No indication to the contrary has been shown. 2006 hires thumping their chests means nothing.

I know CAL pilots who flying 95 hours a month, are ok not getting paid for training or deadhead, not worried about scope, have no problem with the bidding system or scheduling, and presently enjoy CAL just the way it is. These types of individuals are not unusual at CAL.

If CAL was so different today verse the last 27 years the discontent would have materialized into operational disruptions. CAL's DOT metrics are status quo. So where is all this rage and anger?

CAL pilots are the bottom feeders of the industry. CAL has always had the worst contract of all the legacies and always will.

Interesting comments from one of the Brain surgeons.

Yet United ALPA wiped out the careers of hundreds of your fellow ALPA brothers in the mid 80's with Frontier.

Your pilots gave away scope and now we are all watching your small narrow body flying being decimated and farmed out to the lowest bidder. Aer Lingus is taking some of your International flying which will only be the tip of the iceberg. Another Scope blunder in which neither scenario can occur at CAL.

Your current brotherhood destroyed the pensions of your retirees. I am sure that bottom feeder is a typical comment about the current ilk like yourself from the retired ALPA UAL pilots.

When Tilton is through with you, you truly will be lucky to have a job. Now go crawl back under the rock you slithered out from.

 

[Hutchman]

Interesting comments from one of the Brain surgeons.

Yet United ALPA wiped out the careers of hundreds of your fellow ALPA brothers in the mid 80's with Frontier...........

.........Aer Lingus is taking some of your International flying which will only be the tip of the iceberg. Another Scope blunder in which neither scenario can occur at CAL.

Frontier pilots have been at CAL for 23+years now, hardly a wipe out of a career. Granted they did have to work for CAL when it was the last airline on anyone's list.

There is nothing in the CAL contract to stop what Air Lingus is doing to United. Joint Ventures with an international carrier are allowed in their current contract(CAL). There is only a protection to stop United from doing it to CAL. Huge difference.

 

[flygirlqt]

Frontier pilots have been at CAL for 23+years now, hardly a wipe out of a career. Granted they did have to work for CAL when it was the last airline on anyone's list.

There is nothing in the CAL contract to stop what Air Lingus is doing to United. Joint Ventures with an international carrier are allowed in their current contract(CAL). There is only a protection to stop United from doing it to CAL. Huge difference.

UAL pilots abandoned their Frontier ALPA brothers and sent them packing to non union CAL where they ended up at the bottom of their respective seat position. Their pay, benefits and retirements were in fact decimated in a vis a vis comparison with what could have been with UAL as to their earnings from Lorenzo controlled CAL. Another dark chapter of the ALPA brotherhood.

I thought I worded it carefully about Aer Lingus "taking" UAL flying contractually or not. That idiot constantly hammering CAL pilots is almost laughable as United is starting to give away their international routes with a few pickets and a protest here and there. Bottom line Aer Lingus is flying and ALPA, once again, put their tail between their legs and eventually you will not hear another whimper out of the union about it. Tilton tested the waters, ALPA blinked. To date this scenario has not happened yet at CAL and that just makes him look like a bigger tool.

 

[BID]

No indication to the contrary has been shown. 2006 hires thumping their chests means nothing.

I know CAL pilots who flying 95 hours a month, are ok not getting paid for training or deadhead, not worried about scope, have no problem with the bidding system or scheduling, and presently enjoy CAL just the way it is. These types of individuals are not unusual at CAL.

If CAL was so different today verse the last 27 years the discontent would have materialized into operational disruptions. CAL's DOT metrics are status quo. So where is all this rage and anger?

CAL pilots are the bottom feeders of the industry. CAL has always had the worst contract of all the legacies and always will.

I want to call you an idiot, but I will refrain from calling you an idiot. Plus calling you an idiot might be against the rules here at Flight Info. So yet another reason not to call you an IDIOT!

 

[lookin4better]

Is an April bid with recalls possible?

 

[Furloughed80]

Unfortunately it looks like the next bid will be in August. I don't know if there will be recalls on the August bid.

 

[davessn763]

2nd hand info from a downtown guy:
May or June Bid with 787 on it which should be the first recalls that will train in the fall.