Compass/Mesaba best positioned

[Moustache]

Delta still has Shuttle getting 175s to replace 170s so why would you keep 2 carriers? One has experiance and one is startup Wouldnt it make sense to bring them all under one house and save the money? Just a thought

Because Compass ALREADY has the 175 and NOBODY over 1 year pay!!!!!!!

 

[BlueRidger]

Delta still has Shuttle getting 175s to replace 170s so why would you keep 2 carriers? One has experiance and one is startup Wouldnt it make sense to bring them all under one house and save the money? Just a thought

Because it allows for Whipsaw!

On the other hand, there are no restrictions on Compass soliciting business from other airlines. It also allows DL/NW to offer a competitor to Republic et.al. for the 170's.

Thats how they save money.
Sucks for us.

 

[SBD]

Because it allows for Whipsaw!

On the other hand, there are no restrictions on Compass soliciting business from other airlines. It also allows DL/NW to offer a competitor to Republic et.al. for the 170's.

Thats how they save money.
Sucks for us.

I agree. "Hey Republic, you want more flying, well cut this cost, this cost etc."

 

[DashTrash400]

Because Compass ALREADY has the 175 and NOBODY over 1 year pay!!!!!!!

Incorrect, we have senior pilots that were flying the CRJ since early last year that are on Year 2 pay, as well as several NWA furloughees that, in accordance with the flowdown agreement, started here at Year 3 captain rates.

But your basic point, that Longevity is keeping costs down at Compass as much as the craptastic contract nwa alpa saddled us with, is correct.

 

[BlueRidger]

This is just an excerpt from a letter I recieved from Compass today.

"We are very optimistic and excited about the merger, and feel it puts us in an excellent position. Neither NWA or Delta anticipate furloughs, therefore no flowbacks. NWA/Delta did confirm that they will be honoring the flow through agreement Compass has with NWA, and once merged the agreement will continue with the global Delta. "


Does anyone have any of the text that confirms this in the TA or other Agreement?

 

[DoinTime]

Does anyone have any of the text that confirms this in the TA or other Agreement?

There is nothing in the Delta TA that provides for a flow through.

 

[Baronman]

The equation is simple at Compass....Big RJ +Low Pay = Winner!

Sorry...There are those who are, but I'm not flying around 70+ people plus first class for less than I'm making now.

 

[Tank Commander]

Money talks and the other walks. Listen to wall street and the brokerage firms. They are privy to insider info that comes out.

 

[FSIGRAD]

The 15 Delta 175's that begin arriving this summer for RAH are all going to be configured exactly the same as the Compass birds. What that means I don't know?

 

[Flybet3]

The 15 Delta 175's that begin arriving this summer for RAH are all going to be configured exactly the same as the Compass birds. What that means I don't know?

I think you should always prepare for the worst but hope for the best. Alot pilots just need to stop being soooo negative and declaring that this will bring about the apocalypse

 

[SpauldingSmails]

The 15 Delta 175's that begin arriving this summer for RAH are all going to be configured exactly the same as the Compass birds. What that means I don't know?

It means the aircraft will have 76-seats. Which means they will also be configured just like Mesaba's CRJ900s.

I wouldn't read too much into it. I think it simply means that Delta would like a consistent 76-seat product across the board.

 

[Flybet3]

It means the aircraft will have 76-seats. Which means they will also be configured just like Mesaba's CRJ900s.

I wouldn't read too much into it. I think it simply means that Delta would like a consistent 76-seat product across the board.

I smell more 900's for Mesaba.

 

[SplitBar]

I smell more 900's for Mesaba.

Bank on it!! Good things ahead for XJ.

 

[Flybet3]

Bank on it!! Good things ahead for XJ.

I can't tell if you're being serious LOL. Either way, I began my career with my fingers crossed, and although my hand is cramping a bit I will not uncross them!

 

[dispatchguy]

On the other hand, there are no restrictions on Compass soliciting business from other airlines.

On the DOT Docket site, there is a recent filing from Compass to remove one of the restrictions on their DOT certificate of something to allow them to solicit flying for other carriers; not just NWA.

I didnt see a decision, just their application...

 

[CptMurf]

Anderson and Steenland have always kept their regionals under a tight thumb and close to home.

I don't mean them saying, "Your better get your performance up or you will lose/gain flying." They don't care about performance.

I mean they call up Spanjer's and say "We're taking you into bankruptcy, but you'll be better when you come out of it" or call up Tenary and say "We're taking 15 or you aircraft to give to XJ, deal with it."

Any company or CEO that cannot/will not deal with that kind of supervision/management becomes a liability to these guys, and their ASA's could be in jeopardy.

I am not trying to start any kind of bashing here, just stating how these two have operated over the years. Anderson is the reason Bedford left XJ back in 2000, those two never got along.

 

[wms]

It doesn't make much sense as far as wholly owned goes though. The recent push has been to get away from it. Why change now?

New CEO. Expect an announcement for new paint jobs and FA uniforms to follow.

PS: If the push will be for wholly-owned DCI carriers, DAL has an option to buy ASA back.

 

[wms]

ASA's future is dependent on our performance at the 3 and 5 year marks. That's why there is the big push for on-time and all the things to facilitate it. Our agreement was solidified in court, is merger-proof, and cannot be broken as long as we make those goals.

 

[Speedtape]

In pre-merger announcements, anything will be said that prevents any opposition. Nobody knows what will happen until the deal is done. One thing for sure, there will eventually be hub closures. Politically correct things are being said so as not to provoke opposition to the merger.

 

[lookin4better]

Bank on it!! Good things ahead for XJ.

Im curious why this is good when it comes at the cost of Mainline pilot jobs?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Im curious why this is good when it comes at the cost of Mainline pilot jobs?

...why should I care about mainline pilot jobs??....Do they care about my job???......Since when have you cared about MY job?

 

[Smarta$$]

Im curious why this is good when it comes at the cost of Mainline pilot jobs?

You mean the mainline jobs that the mainline pilots VOTED AWAY.

Yeah, right.

 

[callowayhd]

so is mesaba and compass still accepting applications

i mean, wouldn't it be worth it to get in now and become part of the worlds largest airline? i dont know if its worth it though cause they fly that saab, i just want the jet sic time!

 

[GOULET!]

Your going to move up the list much faster at Compass than you will at Mesaba right now just because of the number of people on the senority list verses aircraft deliveries. That being said, the potential for flowbacks at Compass is there. Its all a big gamble. Good luck.

 

[Moustache]

so is mesaba and compass still accepting applications

i mean, wouldn't it be worth it to get in now and become part of the worlds largest airline? i dont know if its worth it though cause they fly that saab, i just want the jet sic time!

Who the hell wants SIC time?

 

[DrewBlows]

Who the hell wants SIC time?

A flamer.