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PilotOnTheRise

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There was a similiar thread to this awhile back comparing SkyWest to ASA. Since there seems to be many inquiries into the pay of the various regionals, lets compare them all.

Format:

Airline:
FO or CA:
Year:
Hours per month/avg.:
Salary:
Other benefits/retirement, etc:

Maybe this will help give some people an idea of what they could expect at various airlines.
 
ILS2DH said:
Go to airlinepilotcentral.com and you'll get your answers.

Yes, and remember, everything has to do with hourly pay. At least I understand you Mr. Moderator. Here goes:

Skyway
6th year captain 328jet
25 hrs. a month
$55,000/year gross
2.5% 401k match, I think. Regardless, it's pretty low.
1.28/hr perdiem

I was straight reserve all year, 300 hrs. total. 100 of that was overtime on my off days. I was away from home 35 nights. Lineholders will be a little higher due to perdiem and possibly a little more overtime.

Also, I didn't spend any time worried about who was going to steal our flying. Spent a little time hoping the Delta deal would happen and then relieved it didn't. Didn't worry about bases opening and closing. Company was cash neutral for the year. And finally, I went from shooting around 100 to 85 on the golf course. It was a very good year here in my eyes.
 
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Propsync said:
Yes, and remember, everything has to do with hourly pay. At least I understand you Mr. Moderator. Here goes:

Skyway
6th year captain 328jet
25 hrs. a month
$55,000/year gross
25% 401k match, I think. Regardless, it's pretty low.
1.28/hr perdiem

I was straight reserve all year, 300 hrs. total. 100 of that was overtime on my off days. I was away from home 35 nights. Lineholders will be a little higher due to perdiem and possibly a little more overtime.

Also, I didn't spend any time worried about who was going to steal our flying. Spent a little time hoping the Delta deal would happen and then relieved it didn't. Didn't worry about bases opening and closing. Company was cash neutral for the year. And finally, I went from shooting around 100 to 85 on the golf course. It was a very good year here in my eyes.

Great improvement on the golf score. I can't break 100 still, haha!

Propsync is correct. I am not looking for hourly pay, but overall salary. Typically calculations using the guarantee and hourly pay end up well below what many end up making. This is not just for me either. I've noticed several posts inquiring about pay for specific airline. This way everyone can see what to expect.
 
True. Pay varies greatly between lineholders and reservists depending on min line values and reserve guarantees. I'd say avg reserve guarantee is 75 hrs/month and usually the junior reservists are the only ones who break that. Avg lineholder pay is usually in the 80-85 hr range, maybe more at some places. Also remember that per diem (up to $1.50/hr I think) is non-taxable. At my airline, that's another $400+ a month tax free.
 
Propsync said:
Yes, and remember, everything has to do with hourly pay. At least I understand you Mr. Moderator. Here goes:

Skyway
6th year captain 328jet
25 hrs. a month
$55,000/year gross
25% 401k match, I think. Regardless, it's pretty low.
1.28/hr perdiem

Holy Crap!!

25% match on your 401K. How in the world did you guys get that? Most airlines only match up to 4%.
 
PropPiedmont said:
Holy Crap!!

25% match on your 401K. How in the world did you guys get that? Most airlines only match up to 4%.

I'm sure what he means is that for every dollar, the company will match with 25 cents. Probably up to 4-6% range as with most companies. Feel fortunate at Expressjet we have dollar for dollar match (100%) up to 5% at year 5 (sliding scale) of employment in addition to a set contribution by the company based on years a service that is automatic regardless of whether you contribute any money (2.5% at year 5).
 
PropPiedmont said:
Holy Crap!!

25% match on your 401K. How in the world did you guys get that? Most airlines only match up to 4%.

Oops. Forgot the decimal. 2.5% match if you put 10% in. At least that's how it works out on my check.
 
Propsync....................don't forget we get that extra .05 raise on the per diem in Feb. Now we'll break the bank. hmmmm
 
Fly2Scuba said:
I'm sure what he means is that for every dollar, the company will match with 25 cents. Probably up to 4-6% range as with most companies. Feel fortunate at Expressjet we have dollar for dollar match (100%) up to 5% at year 5 (sliding scale) of employment in addition to a set contribution by the company based on years a service that is automatic regardless of whether you contribute any money (2.5% at year 5).

I sincerely hope you can hold on to that when it is time for those 69 jets to go away.

In the meantime, I hope too that CAL can stay out of bankruptcy.
 
Smoked Toilet said:
SkyWest
2nd year RJ FO
95-100 block / month; 110-120 credit / month
2005 $53,115
2% 401k match
$1.60 / hr per diem

$53K for a 2nd year FO. That is pretty good. A lot of hours too.

Out of curiosity. You say 95-100 block/ month and 110-120 credit/ month. Can you explain what that means?
 
In the real world!

My wife who works for a large US company, non-airline...
She contributes 6% of her pay check to her 401k and the company
matches it 100%. Plus stock options etc...


PSA - Take home a month is about $1400, plus per diem.
I made $650 in per diem in Dec.
TAFB was over 400 hrs. 401k? We have that?
 
2nd year pay on BAe-146-- $49,800

400 hours FAR block for the year and countless hours spent at home.

The above total is pre-tax with per diem. I was RSV for most of the year.
 
PilotOnTheRise said:
$53K for a 2nd year FO. That is pretty good. A lot of hours too.

Out of curiosity. You say 95-100 block/ month and 110-120 credit/ month. Can you explain what that means?
Block=how much we fly (door closed to door open).

Credit=how much we actually get paid which includes:
min. daily guarantee (3:45),
historic pay value for any given leg (you fly a leg blocked at an hour in :55, we get paid the hour)
premium pay (duty: 1 for 1 after 12 hours),
pay for cancelled legs, etc.
I'm sure there are other work rules that make the block vs. credit, I just can't think of them right now...
 
ExpressJet
1st year RJ FO (2 months of 2nd year pay)
90-95 block / month; 100ish credit / month
2005 +/-28000 not including per diem

5 % 401k match
$1.60 / hr per diem
 
PSA
4th year CA ( 3 months as FO/ rest as CA)
90-95 block a month/ 100 - 115 credit
2005 total earnings 78,000
2.5% 401k match
1.35 per diem
 
Independence Air
Airbus Captain (all capt were same rate)
120.44/hr 75 hr/mo guarantee, avg line about 80 to 85 hrs
one to one 401K match up to 6%
1.70 hr per diem

Oh, that was last month, now it's:

Unemployment Air
Internet troll
$330/week for 26 weeks
no 401K
no per diem
:crying::mad:
 
Smoked Toilet said:
SkyWest
2nd year RJ FO
95-100 block / month; 110-120 credit / month
2005 $53,115
2% 401k match
$1.60 / hr per diem
Is this the norm for the second year? Any ideas how guys do that fly the "average?"
 
Fly2Scuba said:
Feel fortunate at Expressjet we have dollar for dollar match (100%) up to 5% at year 5 (sliding scale) of employment in addition to a set contribution by the company based on years a service that is automatic regardless of whether you contribute any money (2.5% at year 5).

That isn't entirely correct. Years 1-5 you get 2.5% from the company plus you also get a dollar for dollar match up to 4%. So if you put in at least 4%, you will get 6.5% from the company. At year 6, you get 4% from the company and dollar for dollar match up to 5%. So if you put in 5%, you will get 9% from the company.

-Neal
 
Cape Air
C402 Capt, Sim & A/C Instr, IOE Instr, and Check Airman
Six years with Company
I spent maybe 50 nights away from home doing TDY or Checkrides
Home with wife and kids the rest of the time
Averaged 63 duty hours per week
Accrue 4 1/2 weeks vacation a year
No 401k contribution
Paid $7800.00 to insurance med & dent
Grossed 83,115.00
 
Continental Express (ExpressJet)
6th year Captain
Flight time 2005: 816 (avg. 68 hrs/mo. block and 85 hrs./mo credit)
Salary: $68, 667
Per diem: $4200
401K: Company matches 100% up to 5% and adds 4% so total company contribution is 9%. These 401K numbers vary depending on years with the co.
 
I was at colgan for 8 months last year. Under 3 years seniority.
Beech/SAAB captain
32.5K
$2,900 per diem
 
ASA
2nd yr
CRJ 200 FO
Avg 35 block/mo, 80 credi/mo (75 guarentee plus 5 underblock)
Time away from base is usually around 180hrs.
Total Annunal Pay $35,544 (flying as little as possible)
401K Match:
1YR 20% of 1st 6%
2YR 30% of 1st 6%
3YR 40% of 1st 6%
4YR 50% of 1st 6%
7YR and grater 75% of 1st 6%
 
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