Comair's Sole Crash Survivor wants to fly again

[CFI2766]

This thread is exactly why I don't spend much time perusing the Regionals board anymore. What a bunch of pathetic little sh--s.

Cute.

Let me guess, you believe that the 'MAJORS' board is a step up in maturity and intellectual thought? So much so that you attack every one who posts here, typically regional pilots, as pathetic little "sh--s"?

Have you taken a look at some of the Delta/NW threads? Actually, come to think of it, I remember some great examples of professional, mature thoughts regading AirTran's contract on the great big, bad, 'MAJORS' board. PUH-Lease.

Grow up yourself, there, big guy.

 

[PCL_128]

Let me guess, you believe that the 'MAJORS' board is a step up in maturity and intellectual thought?

Yep. Maybe not a big step, but it's a step up.

 

[ifly4food]

Yep. Maybe not a big step, but it's a step up.

Airtran is not a "major". You are not a "major (mainline) pilot". Maybe you should lose that chip on your shoulder about regional pilots?

 

[CFI2766]

Why shouldn't he fly again?

He was part of a flight crew that made an honest mistake. He did not maliciously choose the wrong runway. It's not like he took the wrong runway because it was easier/quicker/better for the crew.

He made a mistake. Every pilot, correction, every person, has made a mistake.

Ask around. There are true stories of guys getting caught in the cockpit drunk. Guys who falsified logbooks to get a job. And yes, even guys who allowed their FO to line up on the wrong runway, sidestep to the right runway, and then blatantly plan on lying to cover up their mistake. All of these guys got their jobs back.

He has paid, and will continue to pay, his price for this mistake. If he wants to get back in part 121, or even part 91, for that matter, and if he can hold the medical, good on him.

Your position or opinion on this matter is an indicator of your personality. I would support him in any way possible.

 

[CFI2766]

Yep. Maybe not a big step, but it's a step up.

Delusional and arrogant, good combo.

 

[Talian]

Nobody is 'tolerating' anything. We're trying to have a little compassion for someone that was the sole survivor of a crash that killed 49 people. He didn't get away with anything. He lost a leg and now has to somehow deal with the godawful idea that he played a part in this accident. What the ******************** is wrong with you?

Exactly!!!!!

 

[mayoplane]

Come on guys!

I guess you were never in Lexington before or after the accident during construction. The maps were wrong, pure and simple. I was there over one week AFTER the accident while Express Jet could not figure out how to get to the runway while using the taxiways they were told to use. I checked out their taxi clearance route on my map and it was impossible to do! The taxiways had different names than the map showed! I don't know if it was Jeppesen or the FAA or the Airport but I believe this to be a major contributing factor to the accident.

Come on, now. The runway was never THAT difficult to find in LEX. I don't care what you say about the construction, or the map. There is no excuse for that mistake. Having said that, I do agree that we are all "yets" and I have no motivation to talk bad about the First Officer. Good luck to him!

 

[PCL_128]

mayo, I've been into that airport dozens of times, and virtually every time before the crash, I remember saying "you know, this place is an accident waiting to happen." The runway configuration was an abortion. Add in some incorrect charts and you're bound to have a problem.

 

[CA1900]

Airtran is not a "major".

By the government's definition--annual revenue over $1 billion--it is indeed a major airline.

 

[j41driver]

Moore said he believes Polehinke's license has expired.

Well at least his lawyer knows what he's talking about.

 

[Prog 2/2]

Usually the corporations are the only ones facing litigation in this situation.

The lesson doesn't seem to be registering.

 

[Captzaahlie]

PLAYED A PART in the accident...more like CAUSED the accident

I'm not pointing any fingers here but didn't the Capt. line the airplane up on the runway? I don't think the FO steers the RJ with the rudder onto the runway do they? (at least not on a regular basis) Just one tiller on the thing right? I'm also not saying it was all the Capt's fault either.... the flying pilot should have his heading bug on the departure runways heading and the non flying guy has his heading bug set to the assigned departure heading...... (at least thats in our ops specs for good reason ~ as far as I'm concerned). They "both" should have caught the mistake if they followed some simple good habits.
Sad stuff like this really doesn't need to happen.....
:bawling:

 

[ifly4food]

By the government's definition--annual revenue over $1 billion--it is indeed a major airline.

Then I guess the regionals pilots PCL is bashing are actually major pilots too? Maybe we should change the name of the forum? Wait, isn't Airtran an LCC (Low Cost Carrier)? Don't they already have their own forum?

 

[PCL_128]

Then I guess the regionals pilots PCL is bashing are actually major pilots too?

I'm not bashing regional pilots, I'm bashing the idiots on the regionals board for attacking this copilot. There is a difference.

 

[Captzaahlie]

If any of you had the slightest idea what causes accidents, and how scary it truly is, you would keep your little inexperienced asses shut instead of crapping all over a fellow pilot.


I wouldn't want to share a cockpit with ANY of you.

******************** YOU!

This coming from the guy who blasted the SAS DASH 8 pilots for not shutting down both engines prior to landing! (who knows nothing about the 8's systems regarding loss of hyd's on the rudder with both engines shut down unless a mod has been put in place). What a display of experience you displayed Ruskie, I think the real reason you are not on this board that much is because you are still licking your wounds from the butt kicking you got on this thread :

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=103147

advice from god's gift to aviation:

Let's see....

Both engines should have been secured prior to touchdown. This is not only for the safety of the passengers, but to reduce damge to the aircraft.

and,

The landing was made with poor technique, allowing the aircraft to contact the runway extremely hard. Much harder than should be considered for an unsafe gear situation.

I hate to say it myself, but it was a botched job. That aircraft could have been landed on the centerline with minimal damage. Instead, it took a hard right after an uncontrolled touchdown and departed the runway.

Here's the Ruskie being so very "professional":

They did a horrible job with that landing. Very unprofessional, very bad airmenship.

Say what you want. The flying pilot slammed it in and never secured the engines. No respect for the safety of the passengers.

Shame on you SAS pilots.

Hey Rushen you are a total hypocrite in the finest sense of the word! I guess it was OK for you to bash the dash accident because no one got killed right? :smash:


Is that what you are trying to say?


Or did you finally grow up?uke:


I sincerely think you need to Shut the "f " up and go back into hiding sir....


The feelings are mutual about you too:

I wouldn't want to share a cockpit with ANY of you.

******************** YOU!

 

[N813CA]

This post needs to be shut down. There is no respect. All airlines have made a mistake. Southwest could have killed thousands with their latest cracks. Those are the mistakes that should never happened. I remember a certain regional that went up to FL410 to have a little fun. That could have killed thousands depending on where they ended up. NOW those kind of accidents have no excuse.

 

[RJP]

virtually every time before the crash, I remember saying "you know, this place is an accident waiting to happen."

So why didn't you take it up with your company's safety committee or the FAA? Telling everyone now isn't going to do a whole lot of good.

 

[PCL_128]

So why didn't you take it up with your company's safety committee or the FAA? Telling everyone now isn't going to do a whole lot of good.

Everyone was well aware of the problem.

 

[CFI2766]

This post needs to be shut down. There is no respect. All airlines have made a mistake. Southwest could have killed thousands with their latest cracks. Those are the mistakes that should never happened. I remember a certain regional that went up to FL410 to have a little fun. That could have killed thousands depending on where they ended up. NOW those kind of accidents have no excuse.

Nah, 'shutting this post down' is the wrong idea. Follow this logic and we'll be burning books written by Terrance Mann. Far better to be able to speak openly about a topic, and identify morons, than to stifle conversation.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

his mistake costed lives.

its the truth.

do something else. fly for fun on the weekends.