Comair's Proposal in Writing

[OCP]

For the most part this is still better that what ASA has to work under.

 

[comrcap]

It'll pass because the alternative is not an option...I for one am not willling to take one for the team

 

[uba757]

I guess I'm one of those morons, Watery we have to do something. Fred is sitting at the GO smoking a cigar with his feet on top of the desk just thinking about how we trusted him when he told us that he had our back. He was just waiting for the moment we "dropped the soap". UBA757

 

[wmuflyguy]

I guess I'm one of those morons, Watery we have to do something. Fred is sitting at the GO smoking a cigar with his feet on top of the desk just thinking about how we trusted him when he told us that he had our back. He was just waiting for the moment we "dropped the soap". UBA757

Why do we have to do "something". It will not uphold the profession, It will not stop the backward slide, It will just get 1800 pilots to the unemployement line.

 

[WateryGrave]

I guess I'm one of those morons, Watery we have to do something. Fred is sitting at the GO smoking a cigar with his feet on top of the desk just thinking about how we trusted him when he told us that he had our back. He was just waiting for the moment we "dropped the soap". UBA757

Uba I understand where you are coming from. I'm not happy about Fast Phreddy's antics either, but when it comes down to it I don't care. Because whether he told us the truth or not, whether he had our back or not does not matter to me in the slightest. I'm looking at the plain and simple personal economics of it. I'm I better off here at a reduced payscale or better off somewhere else. And the winner is door number one.

Don't get emotional about whether or not Phreddy lied to you or not, its not going to help you make an educated decision about your future with this company.

 

[ILS2DH]

This proposal is BS. Why are the FOs taking the biggest paycuts? And they FO rates are NOT blended 50-70 seat rates from DCI carriers. They are not even blended 50 seat rates at 5 year pay. I will definetly vote NO!!!!!

 

[bvt1151]

Taking a stand is the stupidest reason anyone could give for voting this contract in. If Comair pilots take a stand, the aircraft will be transferred to Mesa, ASA, or Skywest and will be flown by newhire pilots at less than the Comair proposed pay. What kind of statement is that?

When Comair pilots vote this down, I want to see every pilot group standing behind them. This means actual support, not "gee nice try but thanks for the airplanes." Mesa, Skywest, ASA, and Chautaqua pilot groups need to put out resolutions that say they will refuse to fly any aircraft that is transferred from Comair. Without this, there is no tangible support whatsoever from the other groups, regardless of what you "say." Without those resolutions, Comair taking a stand will only result in the lowest paid pilot groups benefiting, and Delta management winning the labor war in greater fashion than if the Comair pilots voted this in.

 

[WateryGrave]

This proposal is BS. Why are the FOs taking the biggest paycuts? And they FO rates are NOT blended 50-70 seat rates from DCI carriers. They are not even blended 50 seat rates at 5 year pay. I will definetly vote NO!!!!!

Of course the FO rates are the worst!! You think the Negotiating commitee sat around and tried to figure out ways to keep FO pay. HELL NO! They did everything they could to keep the 70 scale for the Captains only and the top end pay for the Captains. The Union could give two Sh**s about someoned who has been here less than 10 years or anyone who is not planning on trying to make a career at this company.

Aren't you glad that 2% of your paycheck is going to represent you????

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

Of course the FO rates are the worst!! You think the Negotiating commitee sat around and tried to figure out ways to keep FO pay. HELL NO! They did everything they could to keep the 70 scale for the Captains only and the top end pay for the Captains. The Union could give two Sh**s about someoned who has been here less than 10 years or anyone who is not planning on trying to make a career at this company.

I think it is more the "DCI Average" that is hurting the FO's. Look at the pathetic pay for FO's at Mesa, ShittyTaco...etc...

Mesa is the real culprit here. They dragged the average so far down, it hurts. Sorta like the real smart, or stupid person in school who fucks up the curve for everyone else.

 

[kntrdr]

It'll pass by at least 85%