Comair's got a T.A.

[DrewBlows]

I recently interviewed and am waiting for the call. I asked them about the cuts, and the 15 planes sent to SKwest. Hr said no problem, and the Captain just looked at me and said nothing. So I go or should I let the door hit me in the ass on the way out?

I just talked to a friend who interviewed. He said they told him Comair was getting -900s. In my opinion, it's disingenuous to tell new hires that, as that information is unknowable except for the executives who make those decisions at Delta, and I don't think they are sharing that information with Comair HR. Comair may or may not get more airplanes, but you can't say everything will be rosy when you just don't know.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

It seems to me that an agreement would be in effect for say four years with four more years of negotiating for a new contract. Whereas voting down this TA would lead us to similiar concessions that we can begin fighting against as soon as we exit bankruptcy. Looking at maybe four years after bankruptcy versus eight years on a b.s. contract. Am I wrong on this one? What am I missing? Who would vote for this piece of sh*t anyway. Concessions when we made money... WTF!!!!

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

I recently interviewed and am waiting for the call. I asked them about the cuts, and the 15 planes sent to SKwest. Hr said no problem, and the Captain just looked at me and said nothing. So I go or should I let the door hit me in the ass on the way out?

Take the job while immediately trying to get a job at Skywest or Chatauqua. Whatever you do, do not stay at Comair unless you will like living on food stamps with no option of upgrading.

 

[michael707767]

I just talked to a friend who interviewed. He said they told him Comair was getting -900s.

on the other hand, I could see Comair dangling some -900s in front of them if they take concessions.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

on the other hand, I could see Comair dangling some -900s in front of them if they take concessions.

No need to dangle anything in front of us. They have federal law backing them to force concessions. We WILL be taking concessions one way or another thanks to the bankruptcy judge.

Maybe managements only incentive to come to an agreement with us is to prolong our concessions and prevent us from fighting back when Delta exits bankruptcy in a few months. Either that or labor groups under concessionary contracts are a requirement dictated from the buyer of Comair.

 

[michael707767]

No need to dangle anything in front of us. They have federal law backing them to force concessions. We WILL be taking concessions one way or another thanks to the bankruptcy judge.

no doubt. But I think its a grey area as to how long an imposed deal lasts once you exit BK. I mean, do you immediately start negotiating a new deal? I think the company can impose pay rates/work rules, etc, but they cannot impose a time frame for the contract. It's to CMRs advantage to negotiate a deal and have things locked down for the next 3-4 years. Otherwise, why would they ever negotiate? If there was no downside to imposing a contract, none of the BK carriers would have reached a negotiated deal.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

no doubt. But I think its a grey area as to how long an imposed deal lasts once you exit BK. I mean, do you immediately start negotiating a new deal? I think the company can impose pay rates/work rules, etc, but they cannot impose a time frame for the contract. It's to CMRs advantage to negotiate a deal and have things locked down for the next 3-4 years. Otherwise, why would they ever negotiate? If there was no downside to imposing a contract, none of the BK carriers would have reached a negotiated deal.

Agreed...So why would our union even want to negotiate anything at this point? Why not prepare for day one after bankruptcy?

 

[thebest]

What happened to the bar all the comair folks where talking about? Go alpa?

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

What happened to the bar all the comair folks where talking about? Go alpa?

It will have to be set by someone else for a while. One thing I know for sure, it will never be set by Skywest or any other nonunion pilot group.

 

[737Longhorn]

Until a pilot group actually strikes and defies a judge, we have no negotiating power and the airline knows that.

I've read some alot of retarded, mindless, stupid $hit on this board but this one has definately made it into my Top 5.

 

[30West]

Guys , I know it's easy for me to sit here at ASA where my job isn't being threatened (yet!) and armchair quarterback, but if this TA takes you to the bottom of the regional payscale, tell them to stuff it. Now that airlines are hurting for pilots, if you sign a crap contract, you won't be able to attract pilots and Comair will die anyway.

Unfortunately there will always be someone who will fly for less......

 

[ReverseSensing]

Until a pilot group actually strikes and defies a judge, we have no negotiating power and the airline knows that.

I've read some alot of retarded, mindless, stupid $hit on this board but this one has definately made it into my Top 5.

You've made 9 posts in a year, and this is the best you could come up with? You're not really paying attention, are you?

Oh, and next time you want to bitch about someone else's "retarded, mindless, stupid $hit" you might want to try not to sound so retarded, mindless and stupid yourself.

 

[~~~^~~~]

I just talked to a friend who interviewed. He said they told him Comair was getting -900s. In my opinion, it's disingenuous to tell new hires that, as that information is unknowable except for the executives who make those decisions at Delta, and I don't think they are sharing that information with Comair HR.

On Wednesday, a bankruptcy judge allowed Delta to buy 30 CRJ900 jets in a deal valued as much as $1.1 billion.
The Atlanta-based airline also took options on an additional 30 jets. If the options are exercised, the value of the deal could rise to $2.3 billion.
"The acquisition of these aircraft will help Delta meet its network and operational needs for 2007 and 2008, allowing us to continue providing convenient service to the places where customers most want to travel," said Shawn Anderson, Delta's vice president of Delta Connection.

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_5199142

 

[uba757]

At my interview in 2005 we were told we were getting E-170's. Airlines do this all the time. UBA757

 

[michael707767]

Agreed...So why would our union even want to negotiate anything at this point? Why not prepare for day one after bankruptcy?

This close to exiting BK, I tend to agree with you. Of course, that is something the pilot group can address in the ratification vote.