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Comair to become the "whore of the industry"!!!!!

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WSurf said:
You do have a say so in this matter! We at Piedmont have been there and done that with the US Airways thinggy!! But this is gonna be a time when you feel you have a loaded gun at your head. If you feel your getting screwed to hard, don't close your eyes and wait for them to pull the trigger. Open your eyes and reach up and grab that gun, Put it up Deltas a$$ and begin firing unil you've emptied the whole clip. Then reload and continue process. :-)
Seriously First Comair needs to keep a really good relationship with your Alpa brothers the ASA's pilot group. Since you two are Wo's Delta will try and play you two. Example-- First group to sign off on a concessionary contract (Pilots, FA, and Mechs) will be getting all the new stuff and growing when we exit Chpt 11. Don't fall that that bullsh$t and you and ASA stand strong together.
When they start to neg. your contract, don't be sooooo worried about the pay scales some much. Try and first retain your working contracts rules. Keep the Block or Better, Min. Day, Vaction, etc, etc. Keeping your work rules while taking a hit in pay won't be as bad.
Try and get out of there as painful as you can go. If Delta slaps a crappy contract then say no way... And roll your chances with the Bankrupt Judge!!! This is like stroking a pit bull however. You just don't know if your hands gonna get torn off!!!
Anyways Goodluck!!!! This next couple of years will be tuff....
Your information is a little out of date. ASA is not a Delta Wholly Owned any more. Delta sold ASA to Skywest several weeks ago. Just a heads up for ya there....

Comair is Delta's only wo now.
 
WSurf, I agree that the work rules are important to keep. It will be much easier to keep them if we already have them when the next contract negotiations come around. Just a heads up though, ASA is a wholly owned, but their parent company is called Skywest not Delta. So the competition (perceived anyway) is between Comair, Mesa, and Chautauqua (Mesaba, Pinnicle?).
 
WSurf said:
You do have a say so in this matter! We at Piedmont have been there and done that with the US Airways thinggy!! But this is gonna be a time when you feel you have a loaded gun at your head. If you feel your getting screwed to hard, don't close your eyes and wait for them to pull the trigger. Open your eyes and reach up and grab that gun, Put it up Deltas a$$ and begin firing unil you've emptied the whole clip. Then reload and continue process. :-)
Seriously First Comair needs to keep a really good relationship with your Alpa brothers the ASA's pilot group. Since you two are Wo's Delta will try and play you two. Example-- First group to sign off on a concessionary contract (Pilots, FA, and Mechs) will be getting all the new stuff and growing when we exit Chpt 11. Don't fall that that bullsh$t and you and ASA stand strong together.
When they start to neg. your contract, don't be sooooo worried about the pay scales some much. Try and first retain your working contracts rules. Keep the Block or Better, Min. Day, Vaction, etc, etc. Keeping your work rules while taking a hit in pay won't be as bad.
Try and get out of there as painful as you can go. If Delta slaps a crappy contract then say no way... And roll your chances with the Bankrupt Judge!!! This is like stroking a pit bull however. You just don't know if your hands gonna get torn off!!!
Anyways Goodluck!!!! This next couple of years will be tuff....



WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sioux115 said:
Horizon got their's just before 9-11 aswell. The effective date is actually 9-13-01. Much of the pay was based on comair. It should be interesting next sept. when our contract comes up for negotiation.

I dunno, maybe you guys should take 3 or 4 years to stall negotiations the way George and Ford & Harrison did on your first contract. By then who knows, the industry may be headed in a better direction. They can't force you to negotiate pay decreases expeditiously (unless they file BK).
 

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