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chperplt said:
The General is always there to make me laugh!!! Harvard..... LOL:D

Yes, I WENT to Harvard. I was a janitor there. A movie was made about me. How do you like them apples???? My pick up line to the Harvard chicks while there---"Hey baby, I am a janitor. When you sleep, I sweep...." They loved it. And then I helped them with their Astronomical Physics homework, and they worked on my anatomy.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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General: Your sense of humor never ceases to amaze me. There are too many harda$$ pilots out there who need to lighten up and take a joke every now and then. You are not amongst them.

Everybody else: The harder you try to piss off the General, the more he laughs behind the keyboard. Figure it out or he will sick his "Pretty Elves" on you too!
 
Actually in the movie he worked at MIT. Remember then they went that weekend to the Harvard Bars.
 
surplus1 said:
I appreciate that General; it is far more generous than words I would use to describe your musings. You see I don't find you boring, I think you're inept. I prefer to be boring.



Yes they are. Reminescent of musical chairs played on the deck of the Titanic. My worry is that my little boat is being caught in the whirlpool suction created by your settleing into the depths. I understand why you think it's our fault and I also know why it isn't.

In reality it is your management's fault. They have consistently made the wrong decisions at the wrong time. Many of the threats to your survival and ours could not be prevented. However, after the storm hit, the response of Delta management has been quite similar to the response of FEMA in the aftermath of Katrina; too little too late. Result .... a great company, like our great nation, is incredibly injured. The consequences will be felt for many years to come.

What we have (in terms of our contract) has not contributed to your fall from grace. What you grabbed (in terms of your contract) has, and it took you far too long to give some of it back.

It still isn't your fault; it is their fault. Bad management on the part of Delta's senior executives; Allen, Mullin, Reid. They ignored all the warnings, they failed to reinforce the dikes, and now the city of Delta is flooded in the cesspool. I know you won't like the analogy, and your mentally challenged supporters won't understand it, but that changes nothing. The hole in the dike is so big that even the best pumps can't drain the city of Delta fast enough to save it. Bankruptcy is now virtually unavoidable and there is no "miracle" in the offing that I can see.

There was no way to prevent the storm of industry changes from happening General, but there were many ways to pevent the destruction that followed. There were choices and your mangement failed to make the right ones, over and over again

Our union did exactly the same thing. It's president is much like the mayor of New Orleans; unwilling to make the tough decisions; unable to protect his people; incompetent. You can defend him 'till he!! freezes over but you can't chage the truth. ALPA has failed its members. Not just at Comair but everywhere. All 60,000 of us have been negatively affected by a series of bad policies continued in the face of pending disaster for well over a decade. The warnings were ignored, over and over again. Today, we are all dealing with the consequences.

You may call that whining if you want to, but it isn't. I'm not whining, I'm just not afraid to call it as I see it. The problem isn't the people (pilots) that complain about the policy. The problem is the people that make the policy.

Mistakes are understandable, we all make them (even you and I). What is not understandable or excuseable is the complete denial and inability to accept responsibility for ones failures.

Denial only causes the same mistakes to be repeated over and over again; like a drug addict on crack. That's exactly what is happening. The powers that be in the union will not admit that their polcy is wrong and so, they continue to hang on to it and repeat the same mistakes. To answer your question, that is why I blame ALPA for its role in the mess.




These are all contributors to the problem but they are not the cause of the problem. In terms of pilot contracts, the begining starts with MESA. Their "problem" was not caused by the MESA pilots. It was caused by ALPA policy. The MESA pilots were merely the first victims to be sacrificed on the altar of that policy. We know what has happened since then.

Yes, JB is not ALPA. But, JB did not pull those low ball rates out of a hat at a magic show. They were triggered by the ALPA decision at MDA. Call a spade a spade, General. Misery loves company. Ultimately ALL of us, you included, will pay the price if you want to fly that equipment. We will pay the price if you don't, just as CHQ pilots are already doing. The decease is highly contagious and often fatal to CBA's. But, it is just like AIDS ... you don't catch it unless you do the wrong things. ALPA and the U pilots did the wrong things and the rest of us will be infected as a result. Denying it will not change that.



Yes, that's true and the "pill" has a bad taste I admit. However, the pill is no more than the result of a contagious decease called greed. You contracted that disease as a result of your own actions. It originated on the UAL property under the auspices of ALPA policy. You just had to go United one better didn't you? Remember your slogan ... United Plus?

American also tried to follow the ALPA line but fortunately the APA was able to change course before it was too late. NWA too was caught up in the folly and they too are on the brink. The only thing that kept CAL out of the same quagmire was the fact that ALPA wasn't able to assimilitate them soon enough to help them destroy their company. In fact, the only reason they joined the charade was an effort to protect themselves by what you might do to them (in event of a merger) if they didn't. They drank the Kool Aid but they came to the party too late and escaped the poisonous effect. They were lucky.



No, we didn't think we were invincible General, we were just too small to prevent your company from swallowing us and to keep your management from destroying us.

This is a moot point today, but the strike that cost you so much most probably would never have occured if your company had not purchased my company. That's history and it changes nothing now or tomorrow, but it's true nevertheless. We of Comair didn't cause that strike. Delta management did!



Perhaps you are right. All of that was speculation on my part and it is speculation on your part. Our opinions have equal weight and neither one is fact. They are just opinions. What eventually comes out in the wash is left to be seen.

I can only hope that when it wash is done you will not be hurt significantly and I wish you well. I'm not naive enough to expect you to wish the same for us. I know what you really think about us for you've made it quite clear.



I agree that more 70-seaters will come to DCI. Whether or not that will include Comair is unknown but I think it is unlikely. As long as we continue to be "owned" by Delta, I doubt we will see more of anything in terms of airframes. We are likely to see a lot less of everything. In other words it will get worse before it gets better. All I can do is hope that we will have the good fortune to be severed from the status of being a Delta subsidiary. I believe that will come eventually, but it could easily come too late.



I hope you'll be able to recall all of your furloughed pilots one day soon and I hope too that you will be able to hire again. The difference between us is basic General, I do not want you to fail. I see you in the same way that you see us, a millstone around our neck. I prefer to see you swim or sink on your own and I wish the same for my little company.

The attitude of your group makes our marriage one of constant conflict. A divorce will do us both a favor. Shotgun weddings seldom result in bliss and this one sure hasn't.



Thanks for your offer; I respectfully decline. No offense my friend but the truth is I have never wanted to work for your company and I still don't. If I have to make a change, in my opinion, there are many better options. That's not a change in my attitude, it has always been that way. Your "culture" is incompatible with my culture. I'm sorry if it bothers your psyche but personally I have never felt that Delta Air Lines was the center of the universe. I still don't. Maybe one day you'll figure that out.

Best regards.

I just wanted to quote this again and see if I could make a page 3!
 
dvmthwsvan said:
Actually in the movie he worked at MIT. Remember then they went that weekend to the Harvard Bars.

Great, you ruined my story! The actor who actually played my character in the movie was Ben Affleck. I love bringing down walls with sledge hammers! Then, I always grab a cold beer and chug it. (PS---JLO was great in bed)


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
WSurf said:
And then she said your anatomy resembled a Light Switch!

They (huge numbers) turned it on all night long, over and over and over.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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Didn't read the whole post, but let me see if I got this right. Delta is going to cut back on Comair CVG flying, while at the same time they are adding however many E 170's through chatakeaway. Question, does this make the deal Comair pilots took on the pay freeze to get more jets null and void? Or, is it just DAL bending Comair over as far as they can. So to sum up, chatakeaway wins again and Comair looses. Is that right? What a great industry.
 
WSurf said:
Taco Rocket

You guys didn't replace any of PSA or PDT flying at all. Don't you realize all the E-145 will be gone from CLT in the end of January!! All of them!! There will be no more E-145's flying for US Airways by Mesa.


I am very familiar with this issue.
 
WSurf said:
Taco Rocket

Mesa is nothing more then a parasite that allows mainline to rape some money from the WO's. Kinda like a hired hit man!
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/content/blogsection/11/91/
And did you go to that link. Mesa is at the bottom of almost every catagory!! Give me a break!! And you wonder why everyone in the industry doesn't care for Mesa!


No, I don't have any illusions about Mesa. It is what it is. However I am curious as to why you think the CRJ-900 flying is temporary? That's what I am trying to wake you guys up to: JO is planning an invasion of 900 flying on the east coast. It is a matter of time before Mesa's 900 fleet doubles. The seat mile costs are lower than AWA's mainline costs. JO is getting out of 145 and other 50 seat flying in the US system because the 50 seaters are going to gradually go away. Wake up! hese planes are coming to CLT next bid and will fly to: IAH, MEM, ATL, ILM, and other places. Look in SABRE if you doubt it. Mesa has been HP express for years and is not going away. Get a plan together and unite for your future. Best of luck!
 

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