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a non-troll post? say it aint so?!

What do you think the odds are of convincing the remaining old-fags in there that the 20% raise they may have dangled in front of them in the coming years will not be worth the 120 seat scope concession?

Maybe not all that great, but those 100 pilots a yes vote does not make.
A large majority have experienced directly what scope relief can do
 
a non-troll post? say it aint so?!

What do you think the odds are of convincing the remaining old-fags in there that the 20% raise they may have dangled in front of them in the coming years will not be worth the 120 seat scope concession?

I'll drop back under the bridge when the fools come out. ;) It prob won't take long...

The rumor of X scope concession for y% payraise has been floated up in several different forms in recent months, and the pitchforks and torches have come out so fast in response that I think there is a 0% chance of any further small jet scope concession ever happening.

99% of the guys I fly with know what the mistake was with letting the RJs get out of hand. Further, a huge amount of the population would cause so much of a problem that any hint of small jet scope concession would never make it past a whisper (as evidenced by the past year or so with the occassional rumor).

Joint Venture/code share scope is the next major threat... ALPA has been quite proactive, however the Alaska JV (the first that they did of its sort) was poorly done. It seems they learned a bit from that one with the JVs that have come down the pipe since then, in fact the scope protections in the Air France JV are the best I've seen at any airline. Go figure.
 
What did I read about the industry leading contract after the 2000 strike?

Says the guy who's spent his entire career on the outside looking in.........we're all familiar with the reasons why you were never selected to play on the varsity team. Now run along....
 
Says the guy who's spent his entire career on the outside looking in.........we're all familiar with the reasons why you were never selected to play on the varsity team. Now run along....
Comair=Varsity? True I may have been looking in, but I have had a ball, looking back not sure I would change much. In fact one the best thigns ever happened to me was not getting hired a UAL in 1996. Still running along thank you.
 
a non-troll post? say it aint so?!

What do you think the odds are of convincing the remaining old-fags in there that the 20% raise they may have dangled in front of them in the coming years will not be worth the 120 seat scope concession?


Id say 100% got the 20%, no 120 seats at regionals and a new 107 seat plane for me!
 
Wow, spend the day reviving a bunch of old threads and brag about the demise of one of your feeders. You are a stand up individual.

Wow did you read the post I quoted? it was a guy claiming we would sell out on 120 seat scope for a 20 percent pay raise and I was pointing out we got the 20 percent pay raise 107 seat planes and no sell out on the 120 seat scope for the regional.
So no dumbazz i wasnt talking about the demise of a feeder.
 
you still spent the day reviving a bunch of dead threads. You must be the kind of guy that finds great enjoyment in proving people wrong on a useless online forum. Good work.
 
Monster...what in the hell was the purpose of bumping this thread?

What a pain in the penis you are.
 
you still spent the day reviving a bunch of dead threads. You must be the kind of guy that finds great enjoyment in proving people wrong on a useless online forum. Good work.

YEAH BUT, he's right.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Monster...what in the hell was the purpose of bumping this thread?

What a pain in the penis you are.

Haven't been on in a long time and checked my last posts from a long time ago. They were my last since. I thought it appropriate since so many many many many times we hear about who's responsibility scope is...who's fault it is if it released and how many times it had been done.
So I DEFENDED an accusation that it would be repeated and we horrible delta scope salesman would sell 120 seat ac out of our list. I thought this was a good thing since I also hear that this is what we all want...to keep the work at mainline for us and future pilots. There is your purpose.
 
You are the same kind of person, proving somebody wrong a year after the fact in this industry is lame.


What does that have to do with anything? Who cares if it is hindsight? An accusation was thrown out like a dagger at the time. Time had to pass to prove he was wrong. Wrong he was. You don't get to throw out an accusation to a future action and not be held accountable for it AFTER TIME PROVES IT TO BE WRONG.

You should be happy we are getting a 107 ac next year that will need pilots. I am sure you don't want to work here but there are plenty that do, here is the opportunity.
 
we don't need as many pilots now thanks to the wonderful productivity "enhancements" that the new contract allows-thanks dalpa
 
we don't need as many pilots now thanks to the wonderful productivity "enhancements" that the new contract allows-thanks dalpa


agreed.....but that's not what I am bringing up here, that's a whole topic in itself

was just replying to a threat of releasing 120 seat scope

btw, it was DALPA fault until 7000 of our pilots voted yes, then it was OUR decision. many of the 7000 pilots were DPA members, the majority of our pilots voted "in favor", not me but thats how it goes in a group
 
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What does that have to do with anything? Who cares if it is hindsight?

You should be happy we are getting a 107 ac next year that will need pilots. I am sure you don't want to work here but there are plenty that do, here is the opportunity.

1) things change daily in this industry. Thats why I said that.

2) You getting those A/C is not a great thing for others, and you are correct sir, I would rather not work with you. I am very happy where I am.
 

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