Comair Future Uncertain ... Again

[captainv]

IMHO most of the blame for this lies with the snobs over at DAL, and their equally snobbish, elitist, and so called professional pilot group.

The blame lies with DAL management. The pilot bashing, on both sides, has nothing to do with the demise of Comair.

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Exactly. With what is about to go down at Comair, maybe it's time for pilots on both sides of this decade long pissing contest to simply let it go. Mistakes made in the past should stay in the past. The fact of the matter is that a bunch of people are about to lose their livelihoods and face severe difficulties as a result of mismanagement, and that is not something that should be celebrated by any other pilot group(s).

Put another way, everyone grow the f### up.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Exactly. With what is about to go down at Comair, maybe it's time for pilots on both sides of this decade long pissing contest to simply let it go. Mistakes made in the past should stay in the past. The fact of the matter is that a bunch of people are about to lose their livelihoods and face severe difficulties as a result of mismanagement, and that is not something that should be celebrated by any other pilot group(s).

Put another way, everyone grow the f### up.

Precisely.

 

[filejw]

I don't think some folks believe how much of a business decision Comairs future really is. When Delta bought the airline I'm sure it was because some DAL CEO thought it would be good to have control of a major contractor. What has happened in he interm means zero to a guy like RA now as he is just about managing his costs an how to make DAL even more profitable.Now your in a situation with the TA requiring a reduction in 50 seat a/c and Comairs higher cost both in personal and future maintance requirements making harder to justify keeping Comair.

 

[CRJ puppy]

I don't think some folks believe how much of a business decision Comairs future really is. When Delta bought the airline I'm sure it was because some DAL CEO thought it would be good to have control of a major contractor. What has happened in he interm means zero to a guy like RA now as he is just about managing his costs an how to make DAL even more profitable.Now your in a situation with the TA requiring a reduction in 50 seat a/c and Comairs higher cost both in personal and future maintance requirements making harder to justify keeping Comair.

Comair only has 16 50 seaters (the oldest in the DCI fleet) that were ALREADY planned on being returned upon lease expirations over the next 3 yrs...regardless of whether the recent Delta pilot TA passed or not. So Comair's current situation has little if anything to do with the new Delta TA.

Comair's situation has much more to do with the fact that Comair is in contract negotiations with ALL THREE UNIONS (pilots, FAs and mechanics) simultaneously. All these threats are from the "Negotiations 101" play book. It amazes me how many people seem to forget this.

While Comair's future may not be all peaches n cream, the imminent death of Comair is highly exaggerated.

 

[bigshooter107]

Comair only has 16 50 seaters (the oldest in the DCI fleet) that were ALREADY planned on being returned upon lease expirations over the next 3 yrs...regardless of whether the recent Delta pilot TA passed or not. So Comair's current situation has little if anything to do with the new Delta TA.

Comair's situation has much more to do with the fact that Comair is in contract negotiations with ALL THREE UNIONS (pilots, FAs and mechanics) simultaneously. All these threats are from the "Negotiations 101" play book. It amazes me how many people seem to forget this.

While Comair's future may not be all peaches n cream, the imminent death of Comair is highly exaggerated.

U think delta is just posturing to get what they want in your contract negotiations ?

 

[CRJ puppy]

U think delta is just posturing to get what they want in your contract negotiations ?

I'm sorry. Did I stutter?!

(obviously you know nothing of Comair's history of actions in negotiations...never mind other airlines.)

 

[777forever]

Is it true Comair has ZERO training events scheduled in Oct?

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[JumpersAway]

Hopefully the October time frame allows for many to remain current, well into a spooling pilot hiring wave. Currency is HUGE in this business- very difficult to get back into the game once you've been out of the saddle for 6 months.

 

[Cavity]

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[CRJ puppy]

Is it true Comair has ZERO training events scheduled in Oct?

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Too early to answer. Training bid notices come out 60 days prior. So training bids for oct aren't released yet. But that's entirely normal.

 

[Freebrd]

c'mon CRJ, 777 is salivating for your extinction thinking it means something good for XJet, tell him yeah, no more tng events for the year, that'll get his self-interest dreams a boost!

 

[flyboyike]

Comair's situation has much more to do with the fact that Comair is in contract negotiations with ALL THREE UNIONS (pilots, FAs and mechanics) simultaneously. All these threats are from the "Negotiations 101" play book. It amazes me how many people seem to forget this.

Especially since Mr. Anderson has played this exact game before.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Especially since Mr. Anderson has played this exact game before.

Precisely.

 

[filejw]

Precisely.

FYI You guys have the wrong CEO if you are talking about RA ' s time at NWA...

 

[CRJ puppy]

FYI You guys have the wrong CEO if you are talking about RA ' s time at NWA...

NEVER underestimate your opponent and their legal team.
Learn from lessons of others or be doomed to repeat them.

 

[filejw]

NEVER underestimate your opponent and their legal team.
Learn from lessons of others or be doomed to repeat them.[/QUOTE

True however RA 's name was used with reference to the NWA bankruptcy and at the time you guys are talking about he was the Vice Pres of United Healthcare . Spent 3 year at the position as I recall then went to DAL. Not saying you shouldn't be on high alert but if you are using a guys name you should have the facts at least reasonably close.

 

[CRJ puppy]

NEVER underestimate your opponent and their legal team.
Learn from lessons of others or be doomed to repeat them.[/QUOTE

True however RA 's name was used with reference to the NWA bankruptcy and at the time you guys are talking about he was the Vice Pres of United Healthcare . Spent 3 year at the position as I recall then went to DAL. Not saying you shouldn't be on high alert but if you are using a guys name you should have the facts at least reasonably close.

You've got the wrong person. I never used his name in that context. Indeed. I never mentioned the NW bankruptcy at all. But thanks for trying to "school" me.

 

[filejw]

You've got the wrong person. I never used his name in that context. Indeed. I never mentioned the NW bankruptcy at all. But thanks for trying to "school" me.

No but you quoted somebody who did so your fair game ..

 

[SoberIrishman]

Too bad many ex-Comair pilots feel it is necessary to head for Go Jets. That is really terrible to be forced to go there.