Comair Future Uncertain ... Again

[wmuflyguy]

Intern company memo back at that time. Comair did not receive all that they were originally scheduled to receive as Delta redirected them to Pinnacle. Not confusing these at all with the "musical" Freedom ships that made the rounds.

They were redirected to Mesaba not Pinnacle, they were separate companies at the time.

 

[CRJ puppy]

They were redirected to Mesaba not Pinnacle, they were separate companies at the time.

I agree that there were aircraft that this happened to but these are not the one(s) I speak of.

 

[Muskycat]

I believe Comair had about 200 airplanes when they went into bankruptcy. Now look at them.

In 2001 Delta and Northwest combined probably had 17,000+ pilots.

Now look at them, -5,000 pilots

 

[JECKEL]

Comair crews scheduled to deadhead back to Cincinnati on September 1st and then no scheduled flying on September 2nd and September 3rd.
What is happening on Monday, September 3rd that an airline schedules NO flying?
Seems rather odd.

 

[amcnd]

Comair crews scheduled to deadhead back to Cincinnati on September 1st and then no scheduled flying on September 2nd and September 3rd.
What is happening on Monday, September 3rd that an airline schedules NO flying?
Seems rather odd.

You looking at the DeltaNet pattern of service Sep5-Sep30th?? OH is doing a DFW-JFK flight on Sep 6th?? Didn'nt see much OH stuff though. (also did't spend alot of time looking)

Looks like Delta's schedule changes is Sep 5th. I know at OO we get alot of DH's on these days, do to the flight schedule changes...will see i guess...

 

[amcnd]

I looked alittle deeper. Lots of OH 700/900's... What i did'nt see was any OH 200's...

 

[CRJ puppy]

Comair crews scheduled to deadhead back to Cincinnati on September 1st and then no scheduled flying on September 2nd and September 3rd.
What is happening on Monday, September 3rd that an airline schedules NO flying?
Seems rather odd.

A casual look at the schedule finds several Comair 50 seaters flying on Sept. 3. Remember though that there is only 12 50 seaters scheduled to be flying starting in September (plus 4 spares for the 16 total) so Comair flights are few and far between in the schedule!

No need to panic yet. All appears as previously announced.

 

[wmuflyguy]

A casual look at the schedule finds several Comair 50 seaters flying on Sept. 3. Remember though that there is only 12 50 seaters scheduled to be flying starting in September (plus 4 spares for the 16 total) so Comair flights are few and far between in the schedule!

No need to panic yet. All appears as previously announced.

No need to panic? 25% of the aircraft are spares, that is not a good sign.

I guess you're right, no need to panic now. The time for panic has passed, the time for that was a year and a half ago.

Now, Give me back my merger money and fund your own merger fund if that scenario happens. (and that last statement isn't directed at you CRJ Pup, but the crooked CMR MEC)

 

[N813CA]

David Sarker and the rest of the CMR MEC are a joke. Sarker was a joke before things turned bad. Sarker needs to be kicked to the curb. Merger fund has been spent on other MEC bull and nobody will see it again.

 

[i fly boxes]

What do you guys think about the possible scenario of merging in some way with pinnacle. We have been hearing that rumor swirling around a bit. We are both screwed so we might as well screw each other!!!!!!

 

[flyboyike]

What do you guys think about the possible scenario of merging in some way with pinnacle. We have been hearing that rumor swirling around a bit. We are both screwed so we might as well screw each other!!!!!!

Compin or Pinair?

 

[Full of LUV]

David Sarker and the rest of the CMR MEC are a joke. Sarker was a joke before things turned bad. Sarker needs to be kicked to the curb. Merger fund has been spent on other MEC bull and nobody will see it again.

CMR MEC was a joke the minute it told DAL furloughees they would have to resign their seniority #'s to work at CMR when their jobs were outsourced in the early 2000's. Then they sued ALPA for not giving them bigger planes during DAL's contract negotiation. That MEC in the 2000's really set upon a course of self destruction.

ASA didn't do that. COMPASS didn't do that, heck even MESA didn't do that!

 

[i fly boxes]

Compin or Pinair?

commical

 

[flyboyike]

I guess you're right, no need to panic now. The time for panic has passed, the time for that was a year and a half ago.

I don't think it's ever a good time to panic. Panic doesn't help.

 

[N813CA]

your right in 2000 Comair didn't do it as Delta told Comair to not do it. The rest of the companies were not owned by Delta. Delta management decided that

 

[wmuflyguy]

CMR MEC was a joke the minute it told DAL furloughees they would have to resign their seniority #'s to work at CMR when their jobs were outsourced in the early 2000's. Then they sued ALPA for not giving them bigger planes during DAL's contract negotiation. That MEC in the 2000's really set upon a course of self destruction.

ASA didn't do that. COMPASS didn't do that, heck even MESA didn't do that!

Your first sentence is true and was a travesty that happened well before I got there.

Your second sentence is false. Comair Alpa did not sue, DALPA. A rouge group of guys formed the RJDC and they sued ALPA National. Stupid move, I agree, but again before I was there.

 

[RJ Bum]

RJDC was started well prior to the CMR MEC making that decision about DAL furloughs. JP did us no favors by forcing DAL guys to give up their #, it was not popular among the pilot group. A lot of it was just a big pissing contest. How many CMR guys did DAL hire during our strike?? How much support did we get from the DAL MEC during the strike?? Who did the DAL MEC go after during scope negotiations the wholy owned (ASA and CMR) or contract (ACA, Skywest, Eagle)? Research those questions and you'll have an idea where the CMR MEC was coming from.

It was comical to hear Dwane Worthless and ALPA, stir the pot on road shows. Litterally going from DAL promising more scope, the next day going ACA and fighting for more flying and two days later going to CMR and saying all connection flying should go to the wholy owed... I need to dig up some of my recorded road shows that friends from DAL and ACA sent me. good times...

CMR was a good job until DAL $#^# it up.... I miss CMR, but I don't miss the drama. Good luck fellas

 

[doh]

Delta did F UP a good job. But then again, they are kind responsible for most of the F'd up things that have happened in this industry. That's what happens when you sell out and eat your young.

 

[comrcap]

What two things do every Norhwest pilot have that no Delta pilot has?.....A leather jacket in the closet and a rejection letter from Delta! Oh, and the NWA guys have a spine!

 

[Inconceivable]

Did you know that the original NWA pilots have a secret recognition signal upon seeing each other in the terminal?

They smile.



Actually, that joke goes back to 1987 when it was Western, not NWA, pilots. Makes quite a statement about the DL culture - a quarter century later, still a bunch of happy guys.