Comair and Expressjet Pilots Hate RAH?

[SkyBoy1981]

I'll let you re-examine your opinions that are formed without any facts to support them, and see if you can connect the dots.

I don't know how my posts containing facts, stats and historical perspective really deviate from what is being discussed. I know that I can not reason with someone who is unresonable. All I'm asking you to do is to give me a number, a figure or any concrete information to back up your assumptions. You launch reckless assumptions at my company, yet when I provide FACTS to the contrary you accuse me of chaning the topic, or writing a novel, or anything else.

So....all you need to do to prevent another post from me is PROVE your allegations against my company. Provide enough information to support your baseless claims beyond a reasonable doubt. That is all I'm asking.

Nah, I have too much other stuff to do. There are plenty of press releases all over the internet announcing that your company won a bid for Continental Express flying to be done in aircraft that were to be pulled out of the fleet of another regional carrier. Not to mention your airplanes are all over MCO, ATL, and CVG doing routes that were operated only a few years ago by ASA and Comair. I mean...what more proof do you need? It doesn't take a genious to figure out that you all are underbidding to take flying from others, and in turn hurting growth at those companies that you undercut. Didn't Comair have to furlough not long ago and take 2 seperate rounds of paycuts? While you guys continue to grow your DAL Connection operation? And you wonder WHY they dislike your company? C'mon...you're smarter than that.

Anyways, I'm done here. Its been fun though.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Nah, I have too much other stuff to do. There are plenty of press releases all over the internet announcing that your company won a bid for Continental Express flying to be done in aircraft that were to be pulled out of the fleet of another regional carrier. Not to mention your airplanes are all over MCO, ATL, and CVG doing routes that were operated only a few years ago by ASA and Comair. I mean...what more proof do you need? It doesn't take a genious to figure out that you all are underbidding to take flying from others, and in turn hurting growth at those companies that you undercut.

Anyways, I'm done here. Its been fun though.

It can't be the CHQ pilots fault. ALPA says pilots don't buy airplanes and pilot salaries don't affect aircraft decisions. Are you saying that ALPA is wrong???? Does pilot compensation affect aircraft decisions or doesn't it????

 

[B727FA]

How about United mainline since you guys fly mainline sized aircraft for 50 seat wages.

Oh, you must mean SkyWest.

Then again, popularity rarely gets you anywhere.

As you're proving very well...

 

[BlueCanoe]

Nah, I have too much other stuff to do. There are plenty of press releases all over the internet announcing that your company won a bid for Continental Express flying to be done in aircraft that were to be pulled out of the fleet of another regional carrier. Not to mention your airplanes are all over MCO, ATL, and CVG doing routes that were operated only a few years ago by ASA and Comair. I mean...what more proof do you need? It doesn't take a genious to figure out that you all are underbidding to take flying from others, and in turn hurting growth at those companies that you undercut. Didn't Comair have to furlough not long ago and take 2 seperate rounds of paycuts? While you guys continue to grow your DAL Connection operation? And you wonder WHY they dislike your company? C'mon...you're smarter than that.

Anyways, I'm done here. Its been fun though.

I know you're not all that smart from this post. If you were smart, you'd realize that our DL fleet is the same size as it was. And DL is just moving flying around. Comair furloughed because they pissed DL off for striking. DL is striking back. Delta is strike proofing their system as we all fly the same city pairs so they're not stranded like they were. Of course all this is in a system you know nothing about and again stuff that happened before you took your flight lesson, so you are clueless about what happened and the ripples it caused.

 

[OldManPilot]

OK time for the total truth to be heard....

Yes... ALL the pilots at RAH got together and decided that we would takeover ALL the flying we can get our hands on. We held our management at gunpoint, and continue to do so, to make sure they continue to outbid everyone else.

We are having some slight problems in staffing our crew of hostage handlers. (ie reserve captains and f/o's) due to the increased flying caused by the hostage situation.

We have also found it much easier to continue to recieve our Christmas bonus using the above meantioned technique.

Next up..... Regional Mergers... This may require further hostage taking and perhaps Chinese water torture. So far we have not had to use drastic torture methods, but you know us RAH pilots we will do anything to increase our flying those cute shiney new airplanes...

We are currently accepting applications for additional pilots so we can continue our proactive methods of growth. We did however have to increase hiring minimums due to increased techincal knowlege needed with
our master plan. New applicants are required to provide their own ski masks.

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

Way to dig up a 4-month old post...dork.

 

[OldManPilot]

Way to dig up a 4-month old post...dork.

Ohhh that was clever....

go back to playing with your wang

 

[badog]

who?

Isn't the start up cost for pulling those crappy crjs outta the desert costing waaayyyy more than management thought? Larry kellner is surely thinking what a mistake? wait till they get online HA Ha ha. oh yeah have fun with the hard stands in iah and the cle lifestyle. who hoo

 

[OldManPilot]

Who is Larry Kellner???

 

[The Drizzle]

Who is Larry Kellner???

Wayne Heller's twin from an alternate dimension i think. Oh and wtf on digging up an ancient post?

 

[flyforfood77777]

Wow, this thread includes references to: Quizno's, obesity, ATP flight school, and much other drivel. To sum it up, CAL wanted to diversify, and there is a good chance that CHQ wasn't even cheaper than XJT. Get over it, do your job in a professional manner, get the PIC, get the f out of the regionals (if you want to). XJT, CHQ (more stable), and a handful of others all all great companies to spend a few years, but there is a little more stability elsewhere (albeit still not enough stability). Oh, and be sure to wave to your fellow CHQ aviator on the hardstand in IAH. If this sh!t pisses you off constantly, your life is going to be long and stressful. Safe flying!

 

[volav8r1]

The first time I'm at the urinal next to a CHQ guy in IAH I'll "miss" onto his payless shoes.

And I'll procede to beat your A$$.

 

[Bluestreak]

It's coming out soon....right after ALPA's statement condeming the replacement of mainline routes by Comair and CoEx RJ's at lower wages...

We have a winner !! Egg-zactly.Pot,kettle ,black.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

And I'll procede to beat your A$$.

and then the silver ID badges will jump in on the fight and help you out.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

wow that was more of the intelligent comments i think ive ever heard....HEAR YE HEAR YE...if youve ever eaten two subs from Quiznos DO NOT APPLY to become an airline pilot....anyone that can slam down two delicious grilled subs obviously doesnt have the mental aptitude or the decision making skills to go to a GOOD airline (IE: everywhere but RP)....dude you are a serious spaz...GET A FREAKING LIFE...nit picky crap like this makes you sound like a pansy ass little girl....i mean its very obvious to me just by listening to you talk that you are waaaay too good to every step onboard an RP airplane....and since you saw one pilot act in an unprofessional manner you automatically think that everyone who gets up in the morning and puts a Chautauqua uniform on is exactly as unprofessional and is simply in this business to make your life miserable...not to pay bills and support families....you are a waste of carbon and i pity anyone who has to sit next to you in a cockpit for four days at a time...go ahead with your next comeback as to how im just as bad and im a piece of lowly trash because YES i fly for Chatauqua....get over yourself...things are by no means great in this industry but its dirt like you that makes it as bad as it is....im done FLAME AWAY

Actually, my F/Os and I have spent many a 4 day trip having a great time in cruise bashing RP and Mesa... And we didn't even double dip on subs. You made your bed, lie in it.

As for the jumpseat argument.... if you ask for my jumpseat, I'll gladly give you a ride. However, please be prepared for some tough questions from point A to point B. Differences aside, you are all welcome to my jumpseat....


ps... Chas, you never nailed Brandy at the 412 in FWA... good times though....

 

[BlueCanoe]

Actually, my F/Os and I have spent many a 4 day trip having a great time in cruise bashing RP and Mesa... And we didn't even double dip on subs. You made your bed, lie in it.

Being a doosh, you probably haven't paid a dang bit of attention to my company for the longest. Becasue if you had, you'd realize that the company has TRIPLED in size since the last contract as a fledgeling bottom feeder was signed. Let's wait until the first T/A comes out since it opens as early as April, before more uneducated talking

As for the jumpseat argument.... if you ask for my jumpseat, I'll gladly give you a ride. However, please be prepared for some tough questions from point A to point B. Differences aside, you are all welcome to my jumpseat....

send the city pairs, I'll be there toughie. Oh wait, I couldn't ride up front several times even when I was flying Delta Conx!! The CAs couldn't find it in the FOM. Thanks....

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Wow... hit a nerve, did I?

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

I'm sure that T/A will happen so soon. Riiiiight! I mean, look at all the other airlines that have gotten contracts recently, or are still trying. They've only been at it for about 4 years. So, you'll still be a BIG bottom feeding airline with a contract to match for a while longer.

 

[BlueCanoe]

1) You didn't hit a nerve. I just tire of schmucks displaying total ignorance of how we got to where we are today. None of you had the expansion cycle we've had. This contract is a huge jump from the previous one, which was well inline with our position as a company at the time, and even to the fringe of growth anyone could have predicted.

2) Comair, ASA, nor XJT would have the contract they had without being in a position with outstanding barganing leverage. Yes, we all remember how CVG was shut down. The ramifications are still being felt as mother DL spun off ASA, after they were unable to find a buyer for CMR. Furthermore, DL is taking great pleasure in systematically dismantling CMR by adding contract carriers and reassigning your flying to other 50 seat carriers.

3) Unless everyone is as dumb as you two, we all know it takes 2.5-3 years under the RLA for a T/A to come about. I'd with hold the idiotic comments until then. Even if we hold the line on an outstanding scope, no JA, and improvements in other articles that are inline with our company and industry position, you'll still bitch. I don't care, but be informed. If you had a crystal ball, you'd have known DL was going to fist you, but you don't and neither does our MEC. One can only negotiate based off reasonable assumptions. Why base a contract on hopes and promises? Everyone would laugh at that. If we had 757 rates at $250/hr, and all else was subpar on equipment we operate today, it'd be idiotic. We based our pay off what we knew at the time and where the industry was. None of you, until XJET recently, voted in a big contract improvement. We were the first post-9/11 non-concessionary contract. Print it and read it everytime you post. We may not have moved the "industry bar" (which is a joke, because your company's health is important. If you don't believe that, I can't help), but when we improved our previous contract rates by 10% initially, and 17% over the life, as well as have an industry leading scope, I don't know what more you can ask from an airline that was roughly the size of TransStates today.