Colgan ??

[ShyFlyGuy]

Does colgan ever overnight? With the new cal agreement, will they be doing overnights? Also, do you get pass benes on CAL if you're flying the saab? just curious....

They do assign TDY in Houston pretty regularly. It is rare in the northeast, although not unheard of. The benes are for the airline you're flying for that week (all Saab newhires are trained for both systems, because there are US Air and CAL Saabs).

Shy

 

[BRA]

How do they do this? Do they give out two ID's to people? What about all the USair stuff on the uniforms? Will they let a guy with a USair ID from the northeast just fly in the CAL system for a few days and then go back to USAir?

 

[BirdCatcher]

They do give out two ID's. As for the uniforms, they are in the process of standardizing the uniform to just a Colgan Uniform for both East Coast and Houston.

 

[BRA]

Well i regret to hear that i wasn't informed on this. I wanted to provide some input on the new uniform. In light of the FAA around every third leg i do....i want something that doesn't have "crew member" written all over it. Something that is all black would be cool. I want it to come with a ski mask as well. No more regular pilot hats. Ski mask would be better, SYR, BOS...it would be great for the wind. Also, it would be good for when you walk by the CHQ ERJ's. It's so embarassing when you walk by and the FO recognizes you from flight school. "haha, look where XXXXX ended up" If he can't make me out, then he can't say that, which is benifical to me. I need him to not know who I am. What if the bastard tells his friends where I work and what I fly? I can't have that. Even worse when that EMB145, or emb170 FO was one of your ex-students. The ski mask would put an end to that problem real quick. It's real bad when you see him going for his cell phone, or calling the FA up from the back. I can't read lips, but i am a good guesser of conversation. "My old instructor is still in the kingair!!??" Where did he go left when he should have gone right? Poor soul. I want the new unform to also come with one of those hip pouch hand warmer things that NFL quarterbacks get. How cool would that be?? A man can dream can't he?

 

[Thurman Merman]

Hey Shyguy are you off your meds

Hey Shy,

I understand the lowest rung of the proverbial aviation food chain is occupied by Colgan "Thunderchicken" err I mean B1900 FO's but you need not talk for everybody. I have my problems with Colgan as does anyone else who works here, at times. The best thing I heard someone say, its not for everybody, but if you value being home every night especially if you live at your base its a reasonable QOL. I know the pays not the greatest but guys have bought decent houses on these "peanut" wages. Yes there is a distinction between Colgan Mainline(saab) and Colgan Express(beech) as unfortunate as that is its just a fact of life especially when beech FO's were getting jobs with more time snooping through mommy's Victoria's Secret Catalog than in their logbooks. Next time you or any other lowtime individuals complain, realize that some of us had get 400 to 500 hours TT just to qualify for a paying job flying C152s around in circles. I am not complaining about earning my way, I'm just saying me personally am a better person for it and appreciate more where I am today. While it may get bad at Colgan I think back to the days of flying that soda can with wings at a 1000 feet with the windows open and my sandels off in a 100 degree heat and realize it could be a heck of a lot worse.

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"Hey Santa, can I fix you some sanwiches?" - T.M.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Trying to get in touch with a guy who was at Colgan a couple of years ago. Think he was a CA on the Beech. Initials are V.A.

Anyone help? Thanks.

 

[BSkin]

Hey Shy,

I understand the lowest rung of the proverbial aviation food chain is occupied by Colgan "Thunderchicken" err I mean B1900 FO's but you need not talk for everybody. I have my problems with Colgan as does anyone else who works here, at times. The best thing I heard someone say, its not for everybody, but if you value being home every night especially if you live at your base its a reasonable QOL. I know the pays not the greatest but guys have bought decent houses on these "peanut" wages. Yes there is a distinction between Colgan Mainline(saab) and Colgan Express(beech) as unfortunate as that is its just a fact of life especially when beech FO's were getting jobs with more time snooping through mommy's Victoria's Secret Catalog than in their logbooks. Next time you or any other lowtime individuals complain, realize that some of us had get 400 to 500 hours TT just to qualify for a paying job flying C152s around in circles. I am not complaining about earning my way, I'm just saying me personally am a better person for it and appreciate more where I am today. While it may get bad at Colgan I think back to the days of flying that soda can with wings at a 1000 feet with the windows open and my sandels off in a 100 degree heat and realize it could be a heck of a lot worse.

Though I agree with most of what you say in this post....you're a moron. Listen, Slaab FO, who do you think you are that you got hired at the right time, when they needed SAAB fos, so you can rag on the 1900 fos? Get a life! Hate to tell you, but the Beech will get you where you want to go just as fast as the SAAB.

 

[chperplt]

Hate to tell you, but the Beech will get you where you want to go just as fast as the SAAB.

If I remember correctly, we could go a little faster than the Saab. Plus, when the Saab broke, we were always there to pick up the slack.

The 1900 is a great airplane!

 

[tittyjet]

Anyone know how to get in touch with Fuith? PM me.

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

Next time you or any other lowtime individuals complain, realize that some of us had get 400 to 500 hours TT just to qualify for a paying job flying C152s around in circles. I am not complaining about earning my way, I'm just saying me personally am a better person for it and appreciate more where I am today.

Thurm, I'm not going to get in a pi$$ing match, because I just don't think you know what you're talking about or perhaps you misspoke, but I haven't complained about Colgan. I'm happy to be here with some of the coolest people I've met, flying with a company who is happy to have me here. I also feel that it is a bit ironic that you are calling me a "low time" pilot. You've got less time in the air than your wife's legs do. I'm not sure why it took you 400-500 hours to get a flight instructor job, sounds fishy to me. If you read my previous posts, you'll see that I am extremely happy to be where I am today also.

While it may get bad at Colgan I think back to the days of flying that soda can with wings at a 1000 feet with the windows open and my sandels off in a 100 degree heat and realize it could be a heck of a lot worse.

Exactly my point in the previous post. I think we're on the same page, am I wrong?

Shy

 

[chperplt]

You've got less time in the air than your wife's legs do

That's awesome man.... just awesome!!!

 

[earl]

Thurm, I'm not going to get in a pi$$ing match, because I just don't think you know what you're talking about or perhaps you misspoke, but I haven't complained about Colgan. I'm happy to be here with some of the coolest people I've met, flying with a company who is happy to have me here. I also feel that it is a bit ironic that you are calling me a "low time" pilot. You've got less time in the air than your wife's legs do. I'm not sure why it took you 400-500 hours to get a flight instructor job, sounds fishy to me. If you read my previous posts, you'll see that I am extremely happy to be where I am today also.

Exactly my point in the previous post. I think we're on the same page, am I wrong?

Shy

How do you divide the post up like that? Plus you have that blue box around it. PM me the details please.

earl

 

[chperplt]

It's called a quote.

text [ /quote].. Make sure you don't have the space beween the [ and the /

Or click advanced and the bottom right button on the header is the quote button.

 

[Kaman]

Hello,

I'll second what chperplt said bout the Beech. It's an awesome airplane and truly a pilot's airplane in many ways. Hauls a load of ice, stable instrument platform, simple systems and just great fun to fly. It's my first turbine airplane as a pilot and I've learned a great deal flying it in and out of the mountains of WV.

Regards,

ex-Navy rotorhead

 

[BRA]

I don't think that high time people always go to the mainline saab. Infact, they seemed to be putting the lower time people into that. I believe one dude went in it the other year with close to 350 total time. The ones that would take longer to build time and what not used to go to the saab. Higher time people sometimes go into the beech because they needed to upgrade them faster. This may be reversed now due to all the saabs coming in. But basically it's luck as to which plane you get. I've heard many stories where the people in the new hire class said it was totally random as to who got chosen to go to mainline. Also depends on who quit the previous week. I never confirmed it, but i believe back when we were PFT one could pay a little more to get the saab. This wasn't the case the whole time we were PFT, but at one time it was. I am not sure if that was fact though. 18K for the beech, 21K for the saab or something like that. Either one seemed to secure the individual with a future RJ job just as well.

 

[Thurman Merman]

Hey sorry didn't mean to rub people the wrong way, and I didn't mean to diss the beech. When I was getting hired I would have welcomed the beech. Its a good airplane and would kick the saabs a$$ in climb cruise and holding 250 until over the fence. I was just saying that out of anybody in the company beech fo's get the raw end of the stick more times than not. And it wasn't flight instructing at 400 TT it was flying air tours and pipeline patrol, due to insurance requirements. I also don't think I'm above any beech drivers, aircraft placement here is hire by need, I just know some extremely low time guys got hired into the beech or people. Most the PFT guys I know are great guys with good attitudes, its the ones that have left and in turn forgot where they came from and how they got there. I just took issue with the whole Colgan sucks, there is a pilot at every airline and if you asked they would say their airline sucked.

Anyway I think a lot of things were taken out of context and I apologize especially for anyone who thought I was dissing the beech. I spent good years flying charter in a king air 200 which is the little bro to the 1900 similar aircraft and systems. If you asked me which one I enjoyed flying the most(saab/beech) hands down it would be the 200. So in closing BEECH pilots I did not mean for it to sound like I was dissing your ride I think its a great airplane and makes for a good pilot.

 

[dh82dvr]

The venerable beech is the sports car and the saab is the truck. Do you get treated better in the saab? I have not seen any difference. You time out easier though.

The best advice here.........don't answer your phone unless you are on reserve. Caller ID and voicemail are great inventions!!!!!!!

 

[chperplt]

How are the kids doing dh82?

 

[dh82dvr]

they keep getting bigger and eating more......I need a raise!!

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

Hey sorry didn't mean to rub people the wrong way...

No problem Thurm, I didn't think you meant it the way it came out.

Shy