Colgan training contract

[TheCheat]

Some ?'s about the training contract at Colgan:

- How ironclad is it?

- At what point in your new hire training do you sign it? (day one of GS, after your oral, after you pass your checkride?)

Any info would be appreciated. I once flew with an FO who told me he bailed on it and they were trying to collect, but their requests kept getting lighter after he kept ignoring them. They eventually told him they'll even accept just half of it.

 

[Brae123]

I guess by your screen name your already looking for a way around it. You sign it on day one. They will enforce it if you just leave. If you fail, of course you are free.

 

[TheCheat]

Actually, I'm asking on behalf of a friend. I didn't say that in my original post because, well, you know...

He's just trying to get info on different regionals and thought it was strange that they make you sign a training contract. AFAIK, it's the only regional that does.

As for my name, it's just a cartoon:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/vcr_cheat.html

 

[suupah]

Actually, I'm asking on behalf of a friend. I didn't say that in my original post because, well, you know...

He's just trying to get info on different regionals and thought it was strange that they make you sign a training contract. AFAIK, it's the only regional that does.

As for my name, it's just a cartoon:

http://www.homestarrunner.com/vcr_cheat.html

IDTIITOO that has a training contract. BIMBWAT.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

they hold no water.

Trust me

 

[GogglesPisano]

they hold no water.

Trust me

That is simply not true. It depends on how they are written. World Airways goes after every pilot who leaves and they get their money.

Some advice for the Cheat: Don't trust legal advice from Flightinfo.

 

[CopilotDoug]

If you can't stick to it...then don't sign it. Hasn't this question been asked at LEAST 4...maybe 5 times???

 

[suupah]

If companies want their employees to honor their training contracts then they need to stop lying to them at the time of hiring.

 

[TNHillbilly]

I think there was an F/O that went from Colgan to Pinnacle, and they said they wouldn't come after him...so that is always an option. hahahahahaha.

 

[Mr Wu]

There was a Netjets captain that won his case against paying a $20,000 training contract. Only cost him $50,000 to win the case.

 

[WSurf]

I flew with a former FO at cologan and when they called him to get there training contract money, he just said that he would make some calls to the FAA on the Mx practice and forcing crews to fly broken planes.


He never heard from them again.

 

[CopilotDoug]

...forcing crews to fly broken planes.

FORCING??? Who's fault is that?

 

[WSurf]

FORCING??? Who's fault is that?

Kinda different when you don't have a union behind you that can keep you from getting fired. But then again that is different story all together.

Bottom line is, they didn't bother him for money after he told them he'd make a couple of phone calls.

 

[p3pilot71]

If you quit and they come after you for the money be sure to ask them how their contract for de-icing fluid in PKB is coming along. Last I checked they owe $26,000 and have started trucking in fluid so that they don't have to pay.

 

[Guitar Guy]

There was a Netjets captain that won his case against paying a $20,000 training contract. Only cost him $50,000 to win the case.

He's a NetJets FO and his case involved the contract he signed while at FlexJet.

Here's the thread on the topic: http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=108913&highlight=training+contract+flex

 

[TNHillbilly]

I flew with a former FO at cologan and when they called him to get there training contract money, he just said that he would make some calls to the FAA on the Mx practice and forcing crews to fly broken planes.


He never heard from them again.

I have never been forced to fly anything, and really haven't had any problems for the times I refused to fly.

 

[CopilotDoug]

If you quit and they come after you for the money be sure to ask them how their contract for de-icing fluid in PKB is coming along. Last I checked they owe $26,000 and have started trucking in fluid so that they don't have to pay.

I'm surprised the PKB airport authority didn't learn with Regions. I think our payables were in the $20k range when they held our flight "hostage" (No fuel or de-ice until they were wired the money)

It's amazing what a small airline can get away with