Rez O. Lewshun
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Are YOU, a Colgan pilot, ALSO trying to screw Pinnacle pilots? Sounds like you're bordering on it by justifying your own good fortune.
It is ANYTHING that is purchased and operated by Pinnacle Airlines, its subsidiaries, or its successors.
CAREFUL I believe those 140 some CRJs are OWNED by Northwest airlines flown on routes OWNED by Northwest airlines.
Are YOU, a 9E pilot, ALSO trying to screw Northwest pilots? Sounds like you're bordering on it by jusifying your own good fortune.
Now wait I know that your at Airtra, but please think about what you are saying. Your acusing this guy of the same thing you were happy to be part of at 9E.
Guys, As much as you don't want to admit it, the scope is pretty solid. There is no way that it could have been written better in '99. It names ANY successor, not PCL holding or the ABC company. It says ANY. Once you agree to the successor clause then all flying done by the successor should be done by the PCL pilot group.
In no way is this meant as a slam toward the Colgan guys. You didn't ask for any of this, it's just the way the contract was written way back in 1999. PCL knows they are on thin ice with this but decided to roll the dice anyway.
Hey Lear, have you also thought about the fact that Phil actually came to the MEC and ASKED for scope relief about a year before all this? Do you think he knew then that the scope was pretty good? It's really a low risk gamble for him. The only think he might be out is attorney fees for the defense, but they could fold the hand at any time.
Phil's tactic is going to be to try and get by the Scope clause using the "holding company is different than the airline" technique.If what you say is true, what is phil's tactic here? Is it to get the planes on property before he loses the court battle?
Not if he wins the court battle and can do whatever he wants with the holding company. Keep 'em separate and whipsaw them to death.All the time knowing that the groups would have to merge eventually?
Yes, he just would have had to accept whatever the MEC wanted for the planes.Would he have been able to get the planes with just you guys since you are still in contract negotiations?
Oh God, who knows. I'm certain they could tie it up for quite a while; at least half a year, maybe even longer.How quickly would a federal court case be decided?
I'm certain he did and still does. If he wasn't worried about it, he wouldn't have been pursuing it in negotiations the last 3 years.Hey Lear, have you also thought about the fact that Phil actually came to the MEC and ASKED for scope relief about a year before all this? Do you think he knew then that the scope was pretty good?
Nikki Tinker is held on retainer as a full-time employee. No extra attorney fees.It's really a low risk gamble for him. The only think he might be out is attorney fees for the defense, but they could fold the hand at any time.
Nikki Tinker is held on retainer as a full-time employee. No extra attorney fees.
He already has, and she's lost quite a few of the wrongful termination suits which had near 7-figure settlements.I would be very surprised to see Nikki used in any sort of major court battle. For something like this, Phildo would go to the big guns. I would expect a Lorenzo-era lawyer like their current negotiating lawyer, Joe Manson.
Are YOU, a Colgan pilot, ALSO trying to screw Pinnacle pilots? Sounds like you're bordering on it by justifying your own good fortune.
It is ANYTHING that is purchased and operated by Pinnacle Airlines, its subsidiaries, or its successors.
CAREFUL I believe those 140 some CRJs are OWNED by Northwest airlines flown on routes OWNED by Northwest airlines.
Are YOU, a 9E pilot, ALSO trying to screw Northwest pilots? Sounds like you're bordering on it by jusifying your own good fortune.
Now wait I know that your at Airtra, but please think about what you are saying. Your acusing this guy of the same thing you were happy to be part of at 9E.