Colgan 3407 Down in Buffalo

[Jurasicpilot]

Does anyone have a "reliable" source of what altitude they were at when the upset occurred.

 

[Erlanger]

Does anyone have a "reliable" source of what altitude they were at when the upset occurred.

If they were at the middle marker and on glide, they would of been at 2300'.

 

[climbhappy]

Fox News has better reporting

yep, I knew that the minute I saw how they spelled TCAS.

Their version was "TCAST"

 

[Andy Neill]

Glide slope intercept for ILS 05 or 23 is 2300 MSL = 1572 above airport.

 

[satpak77]

http://aircrafticing.grc.nasa.gov/courses/inflight_icing/related/3_2_3f_RI.html

Remember, the guys in the link (NASA test pilots....!) purposely initiated (and were expecting) tail stalls, and STILL recovery was difficult.

"....500 feet above the ground, a pilot probably could not recover...."

 

[Morettis]

I worked with the Jumpseater Joe Zuffoletto at my first job flying in Yuma, Arizona. He had been hired a few months before me and was my mentor of sorts showing me the airports we flew to. I think I spent about 150 hours flying with him. As time went on we weren't exactly best friends, but he was always a really good guy.

I can't remember the last time I talked to him, but it was one of those things I kept meaning to do. I guess I'm a little late now...

Sh!t this really sucks.

 

[Smacktard]

Since when can you not fly into known icing?

You cannot continue into known severe icing.

I typed it too fast, that's what I meant.

 

[blesko]

Does the Q have boots on the vertical and horizontal stab or is it similar to the CRJ where bombardier lies and states that ice has no appreciable detrement to aircraft performance?

 

[acaTerry]

Let's all wait for the final. We've all got our opinions, but until then, how about a little quiet.

 

[badog]

woke up to this sh!t this morning in leone! Sorry people looks like some sort of anti ice failure with the auto pilot coupled. Btw media coverage does kinda suck as usual. Being ewr based makes going to work more somber than ever. God bless all involved

B.D.