Colgan 3407 Down in Buffalo

[dispatchguy]

May those that were lost now rest in a peaceful sleep, and that we find out the reason we lost one very quickly.

I interviewed at CJC over the summer; seemed like a nice dispatch office. Dont forget that there was a dispatcher for this flight that will forever be affected.

I'm rereading Fate is the Hunter, and just read the "Ice" story just a week ago; the more things change, the more they stay the same.

RIP

 

[Icywings]

This was posted on the airline pilot forum..... Interesting. Anyone else fly the Q have a similar issue?

I would like to add my experience flying the 400 in ice. I have experienced MANY different icing conditions in this type of A/C including "roll upset" due SEVERE icing while in a climb to altitude. I do not believe that the icing reported in the pireps would have caused this aircraft to come down on approach. Moderate clear ice in freezing rain on approach and amazingly this airplane still handles normally (aside from the shotgun blast noise of ice coming off the props.) I will add though, that it was VERY VERY VERY (can i make it any clearer) EXTREMELY common to have deicing malfunctions on this a/c. I am talking about two to three write up's a trip in the winter. If you heard DING on desent 98% of the time it was a DEICE PRESSUE caution.

 

[navigator72]

God Bless all those affected by this tragedy.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Thoughts and prayers to family and crew.

 

[Limeyflyer]

They just announced there may have been another pilot jumpseating on board. Godspeed to all, prayers to all the families involved.

 

[johnsonrod]

RIP. Terrible news.

John Roberts on CNN sounds reasonably knowledgeable about aviation - he must be a private pilot. Not everything he says is correct but he does show a lot of enthusiasm and interest. Where's Miles O'Brien?????

 

[viking737]

Is the ATC tape out already?

 

[ultrarunner]

They just announced there may have been another pilot jumpseating on board. Godspeed to all, prayers to all the families involved.

That is correct. Media released crew names this morning:

- Captain Marvin Renslow joined Colgan on September 9, 2005. Captain Renslow had flown 3,379 hours with Colgan Air.
- First Officer Rebecca Shaw joined Colgan on January 16, 2008. Ms. Shaw had flown 2,244 hours with Colgan Air.
- Flight Attendant Matilda Quintero joined Colgan on May 28, 2008.
- Flight Attendant Donna Prisco joined Colgan on May 28, 2008.
- Captain Joseph Zuffoletto, an off-duty crewmember aboard flight 3407, joined Colgan on September 19, 2005.

 

[WSurf]

I am talking about two to three write up's a trip in the winter. If you heard DING on desent 98% of the time it was a DEICE PRESSUE caution.

We get this caution light all the time in Decent in the Dash 8 300 when the bleeds go from LP to HP on a flight idle decent. Boots are still effective so no problem existed in the Dash 8/300 series. If you want the caution light to go out, just have to add alittle power.

 

[Kingzrt]

First god bless the passengers and their families onboard flt 3407. God bless the crew whom i have flown with and should have flown with on this trip.
This is a terrible tragedy.
I have flown this Q400 for the last year and something really bad must have happened to bring this amazing aircraft down. It could not have been just ice the 400 can carry alot of ice.