Colgan 3047 NEW

[LearLove]

the cactus flight was a 190 from what i was told

 

[belchfire]

the cactus flight was a 190 from what i was told

Well...do you have a hot wing on the 190 if the flaps are out? Heck, I don't even know of those things have any LEDs!

 

[pilotyip]

Was I Lied to?

Once again, there are NO airplanes designed or approved to fly in severe icing. Severe ice is to be avoided at all costs, no matter what the airplane.

You mean my instructor might have lied to me, lets check with Avbug he shoud know if the L-188 and L-382 were authorized for flight in severe icing.

 

[Bruno82]

I saw on Fox News that another "Continental Connection" flight landed 27 minutes after 3407. Does anyone know if that was a Q400?

 

[FreightGod]

I really hope there turns out to be more to the story than just NOT advancing the power levers.

Does the Q-400 have auto-throttles, and if so, are they commonly used on approach?

 

[satpak77]

I saw on Fox News that another "Continental Connection" flight landed 27 minutes after 3407. Does anyone know if that was a Q400?

yes

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/16/buffalo.crash.ntsb/index.html

 

[N1VIBS]

God save us from the media. Some idiot on NBC News tonight reported the Captain only had about 100 hours on the Q400 and had been flying the Saab340 JET before flying the turboprop!!!

 

[contrail67]

God save us from the media. Some idiot on NBC News tonight reported the Captain only had about 100 hours on the Q400 and had been flying the Saab340 JET before flying the turboprop!!!

Uh..the guy got his type in the Q400 in Nov. of 2008. He probably did not have much more than 100 hours in it.

 

[bizicmo]

Are the details of the trip known? What day of the trip were they on? Length of overnights? Duty times for those days?

 

[satpak77]

Uh..the guy got his type in the Q400 in Nov. of 2008. He probably did not have much more than 100 hours in it.

I think too many unfortunate things lined up perfectly (or imperfectly?) that night, and resulted in a tragedy.

 

[N1VIBS]

Uh..the guy got his type in the Q400 in Nov. of 2008. He probably did not have much more than 100 hours in it.

Sorry, what I meant was this reporter calling the Saab340 a jet. The reporter seemed to emphasize that the Captain had been flying a jet before transitioning to a turboprop.

 

[Thurman Merman]

For the aircraft's weight with fuel and pax, considering icing conditions present, and that the reference speed increase switch was selected ON, was 134 kts an appropriate speed? Q400 pilots only.

I'm not a member of the media.

With 45 pax, landing fuel around 5500 pounds, and a guess of 45 bags the aircraft weight would have been around 55500-56000 pounds. The ref speed, flaps 15, about 121 kias.

 

[Thurman Merman]

Does the Q-400 have auto-throttles, and if so, are they commonly used on approach?

No, the Q400 is FADEC, however. If you shove the levers up in the detent you're getting NTOP(normal takeoff power). If you go past the detent you can get up to 125%, an extra 35% boost for a limited time.

 

[felixf16]

As for your "hot wing jets"...I don't know what types the AA and USAir flights were but when the flaps are extended on every piece of Boeing Equipment I'm familiar with it is no longer a hot wing. The leading edge flaps open up areas on the bottom of the wing and any bleed air would just rush out into the airstream.quote]

Belchfire,

The 727's leading edge slats and inboard leading edge flaps are heated (when wing A/I selected ON) through telescoping tubes regardless of position (extended or retracted), along with a portion of the fixed wing adjacent to the leading edge flaps. Heating the LEF's and wing prevents ingestion of ice by the aft-mounted engines.

The 737's leading edge slats (with the exception of the outboard slats on the 737 NG variants) are heated as well through the same type of telescoping tube mechanism regardless of position (extended or retracted). The leading edge flaps are unheated regardless of position.

When selected ON, the 757's wing heat provides hot air to three midwing slats on each wing regardless of slat position (extended or retracted).

Not sure about the 707 or 747 though.

Cheers,

Felix

 

[Buzo]

The 747 is not heated when the LED's are extended.