Rez O. Lewshun
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At our company we've had to negotiate language that protects our CVR/FDR data. Just like your company email, the company owns CVR/FDR data until an NTSB defined event occurs. Only then does the company have to surrender the data to the gov't.
Here is the problem at my company and yours.....
If the company hears about a flight....any flight, did you know they can remove THIER CVR/FDR data anytime they want to analyze and judge what you've said or did... They can use that data against you. Just like your company email.....
Cockpit camera's...... A place to hang my hat!!
This is one reason why SWA, jB, Airtran, and other non ALPA pilots should contribute to ALPA-PAC. It's not the politican.....it is the issue!! and the issue is big brother's web cam over your shoulder!
Here is ALPA's statement on Cockpit Cams... (see bold)
ALPA Opposes Video Imaging in Cockpit
WASHINGTON, D.C.---Calling proposals to install video cameras in the cockpits of commercial airliners the "fool’s gold" of accident investigation, representatives of the Air Line Pilots Association today told officials at an NTSB hearing that pilots are universally opposed to the idea.
"ALPA is strongly opposed to cockpit imaging recorders because the benefits of video imaging are vastly overrated, and because far more effective and efficient tools exist that will not only obtain the safety data necessary to accurately investigate an accident, but also help to prevent future accidents," said Capt. Paul Rice, ALPA’s vice president of administration.
"The imagery information gathered from cockpit image recorders is subjective, not objective, and is unlikely to provide the detailed data that proponents promise or that is vital to any accurate air carrier accident investigation. On the other hand, data from sources such as the digital flight data recorder is unambiguous and not subject to analytical shortcomings associated with video. The NTSB has already recommended expanding the amount of information gathered by the digital flight data recorder, and we fully agree. Expanded DFDR data will be far more effective than adding video," Rice said.
"The Commercial Aviation Safety Team, an industry and government group convened to analyze accidents and rank the critical actions that would enhance commercial aviation safety, didn’t include cockpit video anywhere on its list. Nor are we aware of any strong desire by the FAA for cockpit cameras," Rice said.
"History has shown that in the current environment it is impossible to safeguard the privacy of cockpit voice recorders, much less cockpit image recorders. When cockpit voice recorders were originally installed, it was done with clear expectations about pilot privacy. Those expectations have not been met, even with the strong legislative protections enacted in later years. Note the Cali, Colombia accident as a shameful example of how these recordings can find their way into the news media. Given the significant technological concerns that exist, ALPA does not believe that the costs and pilot privacy issues are outweighed by any purported benefits," Rice said.
ALPA, the world’s oldest and largest pilot union, represents 64,000 airline pilots at 42 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. Its website is at www.alpa.org.
Here is the problem at my company and yours.....
If the company hears about a flight....any flight, did you know they can remove THIER CVR/FDR data anytime they want to analyze and judge what you've said or did... They can use that data against you. Just like your company email.....
Cockpit camera's...... A place to hang my hat!!
This is one reason why SWA, jB, Airtran, and other non ALPA pilots should contribute to ALPA-PAC. It's not the politican.....it is the issue!! and the issue is big brother's web cam over your shoulder!
Here is ALPA's statement on Cockpit Cams... (see bold)
ALPA Opposes Video Imaging in Cockpit
WASHINGTON, D.C.---Calling proposals to install video cameras in the cockpits of commercial airliners the "fool’s gold" of accident investigation, representatives of the Air Line Pilots Association today told officials at an NTSB hearing that pilots are universally opposed to the idea.
"ALPA is strongly opposed to cockpit imaging recorders because the benefits of video imaging are vastly overrated, and because far more effective and efficient tools exist that will not only obtain the safety data necessary to accurately investigate an accident, but also help to prevent future accidents," said Capt. Paul Rice, ALPA’s vice president of administration.
"The imagery information gathered from cockpit image recorders is subjective, not objective, and is unlikely to provide the detailed data that proponents promise or that is vital to any accurate air carrier accident investigation. On the other hand, data from sources such as the digital flight data recorder is unambiguous and not subject to analytical shortcomings associated with video. The NTSB has already recommended expanding the amount of information gathered by the digital flight data recorder, and we fully agree. Expanded DFDR data will be far more effective than adding video," Rice said.
"The Commercial Aviation Safety Team, an industry and government group convened to analyze accidents and rank the critical actions that would enhance commercial aviation safety, didn’t include cockpit video anywhere on its list. Nor are we aware of any strong desire by the FAA for cockpit cameras," Rice said.
"History has shown that in the current environment it is impossible to safeguard the privacy of cockpit voice recorders, much less cockpit image recorders. When cockpit voice recorders were originally installed, it was done with clear expectations about pilot privacy. Those expectations have not been met, even with the strong legislative protections enacted in later years. Note the Cali, Colombia accident as a shameful example of how these recordings can find their way into the news media. Given the significant technological concerns that exist, ALPA does not believe that the costs and pilot privacy issues are outweighed by any purported benefits," Rice said.
ALPA, the world’s oldest and largest pilot union, represents 64,000 airline pilots at 42 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. Its website is at www.alpa.org.
Its not like they can place it in a random location everytime.
