Cockpit Camera's. What you don't know...

[Tripower455]

Given my limited time in 152s...maybe I'm not understanding this but...

...if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, why does it matter?

again...if I'm not getting it, please esplain...

You know, domestic violence, drug use, kiddie porn etc. are rampant in this country. Why not just put cameras in everyone's house? If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about!


Cameras in the cockpit are a solution to a non existant problem, and open up even mare legal cans of worms for professional flight crew (and their families) than are already there. CVR data SHOULD be confidential, and never released for the general public consumption. Nothing like monday morning quarterbacking by a bunch of no good lawyers......

 

[Vik]

Given my limited time in 152s...maybe I'm not understanding this but...

...if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, why does it matter?

again...if I'm not getting it, please esplain...

-mini

Cuz when I'm bang'n away at some young FA while the Capt'n is sleeping, I don't want the whole world to see it .. not for free anyway. Now if I could make a few extra bux by telecasting that feed on PPV or something .. that would be different.

But peep shows for free .. at my expense .. furggedabaddit!

 

[dash8driver]

Given my limited time in 152s...maybe I'm not understanding this but...

...if you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, why does it matter?

again...if I'm not getting it, please esplain...

-mini

exactly what are we supposed to be doing up there?

 

[minitour]

exactly what are we supposed to be doing up there?

uhhhh...one would assume flying...but maybe I missed something there too?

seriously all thanks for clearing that up...as usual I miss something simple...if it ain't in a text book...

-mini

 

[dash8driver]

uhhhh...one would assume flying...but maybe I missed something there too?

..and can you describe what that looks like exactly? because when your employer is looking at your tapes, they might have a different idea of what its supposed to look like.

unlike light aircraft flying, flying an airliner doesnt involve the standard pose of one hand on the yoke, one on the throttle and looking up and down between your instruments and the outside all day long.

seriously all thanks for clearing that up...as usual I miss something simple...if it ain't in a text book...

-mini

no worries, there is just so much that can go wrong with cockpit camera with very little positive gain, and there are so many other areas that could use the time and money instead.

supporters will point to the egypt air crash, but that was only ONE accident out of how many more? if you counted all the accidents that investigators could have used a video image, its a very small percentage of all the accidents and hardly worth the investment.

for the people that point to the hijackings as a need. why do we need to see how the pilots are being killed and the plane flown into a building? that wont help anything, its already too late. how about spend that time and money to make sure it doesnt happen in the first place so you dont have to worry about watching it on a cockpit camera or cnn for that matter.

 

[Vik]

for the people that point to the hijackings as a need. why do we need to see how the pilots are being killed and the plane flown into a building? that wont help anything, its already too late. how about spend that time and money to make sure it doesnt happen in the first place so you dont have to worry about watching it on a cockpit camera or cnn for that matter.

Hijackers that know how to turn the xpdr off, will know how to pull the breaker for the camera or turn it off Its not like they can place it in a random location everytime.

i job!

 

[sf3boy]

I would bet that if the hijackers in 2001 had cameras in those Boeings, they sure wouldn't have been turned off. And yes, cameras do not stop anything. You just get to watch on CNN every 15 minutes how pax and crew are killed, just as you watch hijackers and illegals pass through security and border check points with bogus documents.

 

[Lead Sled]

This is slightly off topic, but there was a time when cameras were installed in a few airline cockpits, it was part of the inflight entertainment system. As always, there were those crew members who recognized a good "opportunity" when they saw it...

Does anyone remember the classic story about the (AA?) crew that involved a sleeve from a gorilla costume, a banana and a cockpit camera? It happened several years ago, but I'm kind of foggy about the details. As the story goes, the pilot flying put on a sleeve from a gorilla costume just prior to taking the runway. In the passenger cabin, the TV monitors showed this hairy gorilla arm pushing the power levers up for takeoff. At some point after the takeoff, the gorilla put his hand out and the other pilot slaps a banana in it. Funny stuff, but of course, some of the passengers were upset and the airline was embarrassed by it. It was in all of the newspapers and made network news.

Actually, IMHO, the reason why you probably won't ever see it is quite simple - the pilot unions would have a freaking cow.

Lead Sled

 

[Draginass]

It's ok with some conditions:

1. Every medical procedure is taped and archieved.
2. You're allowed to bring in recorders to every doctor visit.
3. All BOD meetings are taped as are any interface between corporate executives
4. All governmental meetings (especially the FAA) and White House are taped.
5. You're allowed to tape any meetings with your lawyer
6. All jury deliberations are taped and made available

Something like 50,000 people a year die due to honest medical mistakes and incompetence every year. EXPOTENTIALLY more than in aviation accidents. Why aren't all physicians taped?

Why aren't physicians randomly drug tested?

 

[FN FAL]

that gorrila hand story is about as funny as that dorky ACA dork jet photo the regional guys are getting a woody about.

Actually, IMHO, the reason why you probably won't ever see it is quite simple - the pilot unions would have a freaking cow.

Lead Sled

So they would have a cow...airline pilot unions are pretty powerful, they have negotiated billion dollar pay declines in droves in order to remain in competition with themselves, I suppose with that kind of lobbying power they should be able to fight city hall.

I am not saying they should be put in the planes, but you guys are going to have to come up with a better defense than monkey gloves and not wanting them.