CitationAir Terminates Pilots on Disability

[G4dude]

Are you kidding, of course he does. He's stated that he'd rather see the company fire him and replace him with someone working for 40K less because it would make the company more competitive. This statement is too stupid to come from a pilot and points to him being a management stooge.

I want the company to keep me because they want to, not because the union coerces them into keeping me. Signed, The Stooge.

 

[gunfyter]

I want the company to keep me because they want to, not because the union coerces them into keeping me. Signed, The Stooge.

I think everyone wants that.

It would be great except do companies ever do things like let go of people who have been around the longest because new blood is cheaper? Downgrade out of seniority only because they save money on type ratings. Things like this.

I understand companies make substantial investments in employees, especially pilots... But the investment we have made in ourselves is also substantial and some guarantees or protection is not unreasonable.

Oh, I also like sparse's avatar.

 

[G4dude]

I think everyone wants that.

It would be great except do companies ever do things like let go of people who have been around the longest because new blood is cheaper? Downgrade out of seniority only because they save money on type ratings. Things like this.

I understand companies make substantial investments in employees, especially pilots... But the investment we have made in ourselves is also substantial and some guarantees or protection is not unreasonable.

Oh, I also like sparse's avatar.

What you say is reasonable, but I am in favor of a merit system, not seniority. Seniority penalizes a pilot who loses his job and has to start at the bottom of the stack somewhere else.

 

[fischman]

I want the company to keep me because they want to, not because the union coerces them into keeping me. Signed, The Stooge.

What you say is reasonable, but I am in favor of a merit system, not seniority. Seniority penalizes a pilot who loses his job and has to start at the bottom of the stack somewhere else.

You're an ideologist. It is what it is, and it ain't gonna happen.

 

[CA1900]

A merit system in this business punishes guys who call in sick when they're sick, and write planes up when they're broken. It rewards those who "perform," even when it flies in the face of safety. I wish that weren't the case, but I've seen it first-hand. It's not a good system for aviation.

 

[doh]

This is a tough situation for this pilot, but I have a question. How long should a company pay someone who no longer produces for the company? How easy it is, it seems to me, to be compassionate with other people's money.

Give them the same deal you give the CEO. He is just another employee at a publicly owned company. So the same deal for all employees. That was easy. Next...

 

[BentOver]

All the merit system says to me is ""ohh ohh I'll do anything for you because I'm willing to be the biggest kiss a.ss at the company.....Where do I purchase the lube..."

That, in a nutshell, is what I think of the merit system.

 

[dime line]

All the merit system says to me is ""ohh ohh I'll do anything for you because I'm willing to be the biggest kiss a.ss at the company.....Where do I purchase the lube..."

That, in a nutshell, is what I think of the merit system.

A real kiss a.ss don't need no lube

 

[G4dude]

A merit system in this business punishes guys who call in sick when they're sick, and write planes up when they're broken. It rewards those who "perform," even when it flies in the face of safety. I wish that weren't the case, but I've seen it first-hand. It's not a good system for aviation.

You might be right, the jury is still out for me on that subject.

 

[nordo_2]

Good union. Bad Union. Pilots only need a union. When you need a union.