Citation Shares, what would you change?

[7777]

Netjetwife,

Please don't take this wrong because I mean it without flame and disrespect. In my opinion there are plenty of NetJet posts on this site...to many actually. This is a thread on CS and CS only. PLEASE read my first post and comply.

I know your intent and appreciate it, but please let this post remain about CS only. If a CS pilot has an opinion about something that applys to NetJets then so be it.

The last thing I want to see in this thread is for it to turn into the mess the 'CS Pay' thread turned into after it went to several pages of worthless (my opinion only) NetJets union rants both pro and con.

Thank you for your consideration here.

 

[netjetwife]

Sorry, I didn't go back to the first post and had forgotten your request. :0 I read most of the threads because events in the industry can affect us all. The misinformation about 1108 caught my eye and I thought it was important to set the record straight for you and all of the other pilots that gather employment information from this forum.

I wouldn't be surprised if that (setting the record straight) is not one of the main reasons that threads often evolve into Union discussions. Hopefully, I won't feel compelled again to post in this thread, but I'd like you to consider that expecting NJA folks to remain mum while others negatively, and often erroneously, comment on a Union they don't even belong to, is a tall order... that doesn't quite seem fair. NJW

 

[7777]

I have used the Air Tran jumpseat a couple times and had very little problems. You can call their reservations number the day before and ask them about seat availability for a jumpseater (we can not ride in anyone's cockpit jumpseat) then just go to the airport and ask a ticket agent or gate agent if they have room and could list you on the jumpseat.

For some reason when I call on the phone they don't show us on their jumpseat list, but this has never been a problem with the agents at the actual airport!

So you just basically show them your CS ID when you are checking in and are good to go?

 

[Busflyer]

Yep, pretty much that easy!

 

[7777]

That is great.

Sorry for all the questions but I only have a military aviation background. Can you use this privelage for going anywhere or is it only to or from work? If you have to live within 2 hours of your domicile, I don't see how you would need to use it and that is the premise from which I ask this question.

 

[Busflyer]

You can use it for any travel...I use it to travel to see friends!

 

[7777]

You can use it for any travel...I use it to travel to see friends!

Wow, that is VERY nice. I am pretty sure it is only for the CS pilot but I have to ask, how about immediate family members?

Also, what would you change about the company if you could change 3 things?

 

[sflax]

No just you for the free ride. Plus I just buy a ticket. No need to make plans get bumped and then you are stuck. As for change. I would change very limited things. The amount of paper work and calls during the day are a big pain.

 

[Busflyer]

For vacation and what not I would definately just buy tickets, jumpseating use to be a lot more reliable when load factors at the airlines where lower. Jumpseating is still great for us single guys that just randomly get bored in our off time though, and have friends scattered around the country!

 

[SKYLAWYER]

Sorry, I didn't go back to the first post and had forgotten your request. :0 I read most of the threads because events in the industry can affect us all. The misinformation about 1108 caught my eye and I thought it was important to set the record straight for you and all of the other pilots that gather employment information from this forum.

I wouldn't be surprised if that (setting the record straight) is not one of the main reasons that threads often evolve into Union discussions. Hopefully, I won't feel compelled again to post in this thread, but I'd like you to consider that expecting NJA folks to remain mum while others negatively, and often erroneously, comment on a Union they don't even belong to, is a tall order... that doesn't quite seem fair. NJW

Not going to get into details because I respect the original poster looking for info. Just to clarify that my statement about it occuring 10 times faster than with a union on property was a direct quote from a 1108 NetJet steward. I'm not mis-informed or mis-understood, simply taking it straight from the horses mouth. I believe you are sadly mistaken if you think that an actual (not pending termination) would have been reversed faster at NetJets. I understand your point of an early intervention using 1108 resources but the individual in question here was ACTUALLY already terminated and it took that long to have his full job back. If I am wrong then the hard working steward at NetJets who deals with these kind of situations every day must have been mis-informed as well. I have been an actual union card carrying member for many years, they are great for many things. Speed is not one of them, especially when you are the guy waiting for the verdict to come in.

 

[7777]

Thanks fellas. I didn't realize you were able to use that option to travel anywhere. That is great, though my wife is not going to like it if I get hired and use that option and leave her behind....lol. Guess I will be buying a ticket.

Great information fellas, thanks for taking the time and helping me out.

Now if they would open up more domiciles in the midwest, things would be golden.

MSP/STP please.

 

[EatinRamen]

Can anyone tell me what the new CS pay rate is for first year FO? Is the $40K amount shown on airlinepilotcentral.com the new rate?

 

[johnsonrod]

Can anyone tell me what the new CS pay rate is for first year FO? Is the $40K amount shown on airlinepilotcentral.com the new rate?

I believe that rate is the old rate. The new rate is effective soon (maybe April 1st) and it is closer to the Netjets newhire rate of about $60K to start.

 

[7777]

This was posted by a CS pilot on Airline Pilot Central.

7/7 Schedule - 182 Days per year

PIC Salary OT Rate FO Salary OT Rate

Year 1 $83,720 $690 Year 1 $55,510 $458

Year 2 $87,906 $725 Year 2 $58,286 $480

Year 3 $92,301 $761 Year 3 $61,200 $504

Year 4 $96,916 $799 Year 4 $64,260 $530

Year 5 $101,762 $839 Year 5 $67,473 $556

Year 6 $104,815 $864 Year 6 $69,497 $573

Year 7 $107,960 $890 Year 7 $71,582 $590

Year 8 $111,198 $916 Year 8 $73,729 $608

Year 9 $114,534 $944 Year 9 $75,941 $626

Year 10 $120,261 $991 Year 10 $79,738 $657

Year 11 $123,869 $1,021

Year 12 $127,585 $1,052

Year 13 $131,412 $1,083

Year 14 $135,355 $1,116

Year 15 $142,122 $1,171

This is base. I am told you can add anywhere from 5 to 10% of your base to this number to get an annual average (to adjust for per diem).

 

[learflyer]

Thanks fellas. I didn't realize you were able to use that option to travel anywhere. That is great, though my wife is not going to like it if I get hired and use that option and leave her behind....lol. Guess I will be buying a ticket.

Great information fellas, thanks for taking the time and helping me out.

Now if they would open up more domiciles in the midwest, things would be golden.

MSP/STP please.

Open? A CS pilot told me he heard they are reducing the bases to about 6, and grandfathering the current guys to their respective domiciles. Just something I heard. Someone else had to as well.....