CHQ new Delta jets?

[FurloughedAgain]

Interestingly....Chautauqua too was PFT in the mid 1990s.

$10,000 to your favorite FSI location for Jetstream 3100 training.

 

[TWAER]

Looks like Jetflyer just got out of class at CAA. Before you come on here ranting and raving, get your facts straight.

It wasn't our first TA.
My line has 90 hours this month. Whatever point you were trying to make


Are you kidding me. You have no idea how far along RP was. Guess what? Their first(I mean our first) two planes just got picked up in BNA this weekend. And as for pilots; HA HA HA don't kid yourself. Get this, 30 Airways guys in class as of this friday. They were going with or without a contract.

I'm sorry, I didn't see you at the negotiation table. Which seat were sitting in. You seem like you know all the answers.

And actually, with the exception of a few like you on this board, I don't think there is any hate. But you better watch out, people like you are are giving Comair a bad name. If in fact you actually work for an airline.

 

[Stick Man]

To Jetflyer

Awesome - you'll either be or you already are a CA at CMR after 5 years - that's great. I'll be a CA in my second year if all goes well at CHQ (and yes. . . if and when CHQ grows as rumored - I can be a lil skeptical too). Now my numbers aren't exact but they're close. I'll be making 25K more a year than you in years 2, 3, and 4. Thats 75K total. In you're fifth year - at CMR, you'll make like appx. 7-8 grand more than me a year when I'm a 5th yr CA at CHQ. At that rate you're total earnings will be caught up to mine in appx. 5.5 yrs after our 5th yr CA pay - or appx. 10 yrs into our job. You still gonna be at CMR? I hope that I am not still flying ERJ's by that point. So don't raise the money issue - that's not what this is all about - it's about security and QOL. It's also about the next biggest and baddest a/c that we command (another big-boy toy).


QOL . . . that's funny . . .

. . . Don't call me a whore when u fly 90 some hour months - that makes you a tool who probably has a crappy home life, no big boy toys and a bummer for QOL. Work like a dog for 16 days a month - and then go home and recouperate. I don't call people names usually - but you are a 'tard!

Life is about QOL - and that's what we negotiated for (at CHQ) - more money and better work rules. Bottom line.

 

[Skull-One]

Re: To Jetflyer

Awesome - you'll either be or you already are a CA at CMR after 5 years - that's great. I'll be a CA in my second year if all goes well at CHQ (and yes. . .

[...]

. . . Don't call me a whore when u fly 90 some hour months - that makes you a tool who probably has a crappy home life, no big boy toys and a bummer for QOL. Work like a dog for 16 days a month - and then go home and recouperate. I don't call people names usually - but you are a 'tard!

Life is about QOL - and that's what we negotiated for (at CHQ) -
more money and better work rules. Bottom line.

HAHAHAHAHA! Game....set....MATCH. Nice job.

 

[SizzleChest]

Look, for those of you that said CHQ lowered the bar I say go on raise it with your next contracts! That way in 3.5 years we can go get +1% of your "bitchin'" contract that you are so sure to get. We took no concessions when everyone else is, got pay raises when nobody else is and other QOL issues. SkyWest is facing higher insurance and other negative things there since they are non-union and many are looking to jump ship to WN or wherever. Air Wis and other companies took pay downgrades... mesaba is faced with issues and other pilots are facing issues at other companies. I for one am glad to have this behind us and can now spend the $ i saved in case of a strike. I have a 2003 truck, a new house and 2002 motorcycle all paid for by CHQ. I am pretty lucky and will tell anyone that. More power to all of you in negoitiations or nearing expiration... hats off to you for raising the bar we will be working off that in 3.5. We went 2+ years without a contract and can manage 3.5 more. If you are so confident in your skills then go get 'em tiger! We will be there to laugh when you find out it is harder than you think. All CEOs are one the alter-ego/whipsaw band wagon. The pilots make the $ that pays the lawyers to fight you to the bitter end and company's advantage.

peace!

 

[knightflyer]

Blah Blah Blah,

When your on the bottom, there is only one way to go.

 

[Stick Man]

to (Michael) Knightflyer

Well then enlighten us please knightflyer - who are you "on the top" with ? - since we're "on the bottom" here at CHQ. You must have an amazing job if you truly have 10000 flight hours. And if you do have 10000 hours - WTF are you doing here posting on the regional board? Get a life.

Hmmm. . . . one day I imagine . . . . myself . . . .

having 10000 flight hours, making fun of a pilot group that improved their contract in every way (post 9/11), subscribing to a posting board and actually caring about what is said enough to post a one-line response.

In the mean time - I'll be happy with what those before me have done, I'll fly my butt off, make ok FO cha-ching and very admirable CA cha-ching, build 10,000 hrs and move on to bigger better and faster - actually - let me change that - by 5,000 hrs I hope I will have moved on to bigger, better and faster. HERE'S WHERE THE SARCASM STARTS! - I'll make lots of money and fly only 12 days a month. That will allow me to spend lots of time caring about what other airline pukes are doing at their respective company. I'll be able to post one-liners on the internet post boards and feel real cool about the fact that others can read the drivel that flows from my lips. Then, and only then will my pathetic life be complete - knightflyer - get a clue.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

by 5,000 hrs I hope I will have moved on to bigger, better and faster. "

Then you'll move on to some middle of the road carrier, spend a few years there, move on to a major airline, fly there for a few years and then -- once you DO have around 10,000 hrs -- maybe you'll get furloughed and try to get hired again as an F/O at a company like Chautauqua.

Thats about the time that you'll think... "Why the HECK would they agree to a TA that tops FOs out at a 4 year payscale???"

You said, "And if you do have 10000 hours - WTF are you doing here posting on the regional board? Get a life."

A little thing called 09/11 took that from some of us my friend. We were all in your shoes a few years ago...and we ALL thought that by the time we had more than 5000 hours we would have been firmly, securely, at a major airline.

Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. Try and show a little understanding ok?

 

[Stick Man]

response

Furloughed - I have read and respected many of your posts - however please don't forget something - you sleep in the bed that you make.

You wrote, "Then you'll move on to some middle of the road carrier, spend a few years there, move on to a major airline, fly there for a few years and then -- once you DO have around 10,000 hrs -- maybe you'll get furloughed and try to get hired again as an F/O at a company like Chautauqua.

Thats about the time that you'll think... "Why the HECK would they agree to a TA that tops FOs out at a 4 year payscale???"


Only problem with that is that you chose (and others chose) to go where they wanted. When you (or someone else) leaves a seemingly stable job for another - you take a chance. Just because a chance is taken doesn't give someone the right to come on a posting board and post a statement like knightrider's. Well, it doesn't give him the right to post it without a response. Hence the reason for my response. Please don't blame anyone at CHQ for taking a deal that affects a furloughed pilot more than a pilot in the normal progression of an airline career (without a furlough). Those pilots that you refer to in your prior post, chose to make the decision to move on and up. No one forced them. And yes, I know that 9/11 reaked a bunch of havoc on the industry - but it reaked a lot of havoc on all industries. I primarily felt it in the stock market.

One more thing, you said, "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. Try and show a little understanding ok?".

In what way did I not show understanding? When I fired a retort towards Knightrider? Just after he said," When your on the bottom, there is only one way to go."? I'll show understanding when it's due. Knightridder didn't deserve any understanding.

 

[jetflyer]

2nd year F.O. pay still in the twenties!!

PAY FOR TRAINING is more like it!

 

[GearDwnFlaps15]

Re: To Jetflyer

It's also about the next biggest and baddest a/c that we command (another big-boy toy).

ROFLMAO.....Lemme guess.... Rayban aviators, a really big watch and you always stop by the grocery store on your way home from work......wearing your hat, of course, because company policy requires it be worn when you're in view of the public.



So, was there anything else in your post? This is the only sentence I remember from it........Get it?????

 

[LearLove]

by 5,000 hrs I hope I will have moved on to bigger, better and faster. "

Then you'll move on to some middle of the road carrier, spend a few years there, move on to a major airline, fly there for a few years and then -- once you DO have around 10,000 hrs -- maybe you'll get furloughed and try to get hired again as an F/O at a company like Chautauqua.

Thats about the time that you'll think... "Why the HECK would they agree to a TA that tops FOs out at a 4 year payscale???"

You said, "And if you do have 10000 hours - WTF are you doing here posting on the regional board? Get a life."

A little thing called 09/11 took that from some of us my friend. We were all in your shoes a few years ago...and we ALL thought that by the time we had more than 5000 hours we would have been firmly, securely, at a major airline.

Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. Try and show a little understanding ok?

Thank You FurloughedAgain

 

[Sam Fisher]

Re: a lil help for my boy...

CHQ (one of the only, if not the only airline to turn a profit in the first financial quarter post 9/11 in part, due to firm fuel price negotiations - smart huh!)

More $, more flying, many new shiny planes - in fact the only operator that has been taking a/c steadily for the last year, great people to work for (ok the religious dude -

ExpressJet will show a greater than $100 million profit AFTER taxes for 2003. It was roughly $85 million after taxes for 2002. Don't forget SWA, JetBlue, and Airtran...all turning a profit, which is especially impressive given the fact that they don't operate under a "cost-plus" contract that virtually guarantees positive margins.

Furthermore, ExpressJet received over 40 airplanes this year and will take delivery of 21 in 2004.

Just a fact check there.....

Sam

 

[surplus1]

Will Bedford ask the CHQ pilots to take some concessions on their new contract to get the "growth" that would have gone to Comair?

When he does, will they go for it? Just think of all the upgrades.

Or will Mesa make a successful bid and beat CHQ to the table?

Just think guys, if you can outbid Mesa, you get 80 new jets and double the size of your airline.

 

[Skull-One]

TROLL.