chemtrails

[bart]

You are being watched

I would just shut up about all of it if I were you guys.

 

[Aerosmith]

Facts can be so confusing. especially when your mind is set.
Let the poor bugger swim in his own cestpool of misguidance.

This is like discussing religion with a Taliban.....

Have a nice life, Denver. Dont forget to don that tinhat.

 

[flywithastick]

Dont forget to don that tinhat.

I'm wearing mine today.... Extra heavy tin (aluminum) foil!!! and foil lined shorts as well!!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20031028/mdf394386.jpg

 

[TXCAP4228]

Re: conversion in CELCIUS

By the way you can do the same math in celcius.
90F is 32C

Lets use 2C temperature difference per 1,000ft and 12,000ft height as a point of comparison.

2 times 12 = 24

32 - 24 = 8C

Can jet contrails form at 8C at 12,000ft? No

By the way, when you look at the three pictures at

http://www.geocities.com/houstonchemtrails/dec1102.html

what do you see? Heavy low altitude cloud cover and a jet contrail or one of those notorious chemtrails? You decide.

By the way look at the bottom picture and notice how close to the roof of the apartment building it is. Wouldn't that look suspicious to you?

Dude, you are either a flake or you are yanking our collective chain.

1) You have no reason to believe that the images in your picture are at 12,000 feet. Jeez, I am a pilot and I can't just tell you what the cloud bases are just by looking up from the ground.

2) Clouds - and therefore condensation trails (CONtrails) - can form at any altitude if the conditions are right. It is rare to see them at low altitudes and I can never recall seeing one at 12,000 feet, but it is possible.

3) Your photo's are not legitmate as evidence because even you can't evaluate them without knowing what the level of the contrails are at.

4) Your photo's are iliegitmate as evidence, further, because you have no idea - solely looking at a picture - what the winds and temps aloft were at the time the photo was taken.

5) Your argument is illegitimate because you start from a preconceived idea and then as a defesne you just point to a photograph.

Now I have some questions for you:

1) Can you idenitfy the four types of fog and the wind conditions required for any of them to form?

2) Can you explain even the basics of what is required for a cloud to form?

3) Can you identify the four (or five) cloud types and how to classify them?

4) Can you tell me which direction a cold front generally moves in this hemisphere?

5) Can you tell me which direction a wind shift will happen when a frontal system passes?


I'll bet you have no idea. And these aren't even tough questions. Every pilot on this board could answer these in their sleep because they actually read books about weather written by scientists who have studied weather for years.

Don't come to to pilots who have actually taken the time to learn about the world around them, and how the processes of nature work, and show us pictures and then try to tell us we're stupid and don't have a clue. Or that we're lying to you.

Don't believe everything you have read on some black helicopters conspiracy website. Go to the library and read this sh!t for yourself.

Bottom line: If you can't answer these basic questions then you are not even remotely qualified to enter into a conversation with any of us about weather phenomena.

One last question for you. If the government REALLY was using airplanes to spray chemicals in the air for some nefarious purpose, don't you think they would do a better job making them disperse and just float down onto everyone? I mean, why the hell would they waste the time and money just to let the stuff float around up there?

On second thought, you probably have no answer for that either. Dude, get off this board. Just go away.

 

[TXCAP4228]

I'm wearing mine today.... Extra heavy tin (aluminum) foil!!! and foil lined shorts as well!!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20031028/mdf394386.jpg

Hey fly, the solar flare is actually a CIA plot to disrupt communications for the purposes of illegaly monitoring phone calls, radio transmissions, satellite usage, and tracking emails on the internet.

The tin hat is not enough. I had to completely cover my home and my computer in tin foil.

I say this just so you can better prepare yourself.

 

[Typhoon1244]

The tin hat is not enough. I had to completely cover my home and my computer in tin foil.

ALCOA must love you!

(Well, you said tin, didn't you? Never mind...)

 

[Typhoon1244]

By the way, I see Iberia has joined the con-spiracy...

 

[TXCAP4228]

ALCOA must love you!

(Well, you said tin, didn't you? Never mind...)

Typhoon, you have stumbled into another conspiracy. Tin Foil and Aluminum Foil are treated by mopst people as the same thing, but they're NOT. Big industry has teamed up with the CIA to try and perpetrate this big lie on the american people and it proves that the government lies to us!!

You see, ALUMINUM FOIL will NOT protect your brain from the CIA satellite mind control devices, but TIN FOIL WILL. When "they" found out about this "they" created a program to start to make people think that ALUMINUM FOIL was the same as TIN FOIL - and thereby make people like us think that ALUMINUM FOIL made us secure.

ITS ALL A BIG LIE MAN!!! YOU HAVE TO USE TIN FOIL.

I'm telling you. With all these duped wacko's out there, the world just isn't safe for us normal folks anymore.

I can even prove it. Do an internet search and you will come up with NOTHING WHATSOEVER about this. Does that make any sense? HE!! NO! The CIA has gone through the internet and taken down the websites that tried to expose the big lie.

Have you ever met anyone (other than me, but I have no fear of death) that had realized this? That just proves my point. The CIA already took them out....


Uh oh....


they're coming for me.....


I hav

 

[Typhoon1244]

Uh oh...they're coming for me...I hav

ROFLMAO!

 

[dash8driver]

Re: Re: conversion in CELCIUS

If there's enough moisture in the air, yes. They'll be short-lived, but they'll be there.

Condensation trails will form anywhere if there is enough moisture in the atmosphere and if the ambient air temperature is cold enough. They can even form below 1,000 feet under certain conditions (as you can see here and here).I see a contrail. Only an ignorant paranoiac would see a "chemtrail." Oh yeah! That "chemtrail" is practically touching the roof, isn't it!

looks like those boys forgot to turn off the sprayer before they descended to land. tsk tsk. i dont know about them, but turning off the chem sprayers is on our descent approach checklist so things like this dont happen.

also..good point TXCAP4228.. wtf would they spray so high up if they were gonna spray, by the time it gets to the ground, not only will it be blown away from the target below, it would be so dispersed and diluted it would be ineffective. also, you'd figure they would make it so you couldnt see the chemicals spraying out... that way all these "smart" chemtrail people wouldnt be able to figure it out.

next time you think there's a conspiracy, first think about this: why would they make it so obvious to see/figure out and what makes you think you're gonna be smart enough to outsmart a govt conspiracy.

btw, does anyone know where to buy tin foil in quantity? now that the aluminum/tin foil thing has been exposed, you can bet that the cia agents working at the various grocery stores will work to get rid of tin foil so we cant protect ourselves.

 

[414Flyer]

This thread has been pretty entertaining for us over on a friend of mines anti-chemtrail website. Its a whole website dedicated to making fun of these loons and chemtrails. Their 9/11 beliefs chemmies have are even kookier than chemtrails.

http://pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails22884frm1

 

[Northern Lights]

This was the first sight I found when I typed "chemtrails" in google... www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

The message board is a real hoot! click on "aerosol crimes"

Also as if Denver is interested in Temps aloft, just go look at a temperature and winds aloft chart.

 

[siucavflight]

Dosent the GUMPS checklist stand fo

G-Gas
U-Undercairage
M-Mixture
P-Prop full foreward
S-Sprayers off

At least that is what I have been taught at work. I know that i am only flying Cessnas, but it is good practice for my future job as a chemtrail sprayer.

 

[enigma]

Hey Denver,

The next time you see a Chemtrail at 12thousand feet, or when you see aircraft that look suspicous; just call up a aircraft rental company and rent yourself an airplane (and pilot) so that you can collect the data firsthand.

You will need to wait until the last minute to pick out your charter company, if you let them know what you want, they will have adequate time to rig the instruments so that they can fool you about the altitude. Just in case, you should go to a good jewelry store and buy an pilots watch that includes an altimeter. That way you will know the altitude without having to rely on the aircraft instruments. Have the pilot climb to the altitude that you think contains the Chemtrails and look for yourself.

You will need to rent an airplane capable of climbing high enough to reach the altitudes you want to investigate, meaning that you will need to avoid most training aircraft. The average trainer doesn't have enough power to climb much above 10thousand feet.

Let us know what you find out.

regards,
enigma

 

[empenage]

What the h&ll is this thread about?

 

[Typhoon1244]

What the h&ll is this thread about?

It started with this...

Originally posted by Denver130
Have you seen unusual jet contrail patterns in the sky in the form of grids, X's, wheel, or line patterns as seen at www.geocities.com/houstonchemtrails?

Do you have any official documents about chemtrails? If you have some to share, send me an email at [email protected]

You know, something just dawned on me:

(1) Why would Denver130 think that professional pilots who are not in on "the conspiracy" would posess documents about a super-secret Pentagon project?

(2) Furthermore, if anybody on this forum is in on "the conspiracy," does Denver130 really believe that they'd just hand over whatever documentation they had on it?

Suggests a third-grade mentality, if you ask me...

 

[Typhoon1244]

This is from the website 414Flyer referred to. It's from a lady named "Lisa" and it's about another follower of the "chemtrail conspiracy" named "Michael" who set up a Yahoo! discussion group about chemtrails, then promptly deleted it:

Michael emailed me and said (and I quote) "in a moment of clarity" he deleted the group. Michael is guided by (ahem) deceased persons. One of them is named Sir George. Michael deleted his group without letting anyone know anything. Apparently, it was a little secret between him and Sir George and the rest of the dead poets society.

And this is the kind of person that is trying to keep us all safe from "chemtrails."

By the way, here's proof that Albertans are insane, too.

(You know, sometimes, during the dead of Winter, I see "chemtrails" coming from other cars on the street. My god! How far does this conspiracy go? )

 

[Typhoon1244]

Apparently the Swedes are finding innovative new ways to generate chemtrails...

 

[TXCAP4228]

I am really disappointed. I had so much fun making fun of Denver130 that I really hoped he would come back - even though I told him to go away.

I laughed about this thread for two days.




Anybody want to go over to one of these wacko websites and have a little fun?? I have some mischevious ideas....

 

[414Flyer]

Count me in