Chautauqua or ASA

[KingAirer]

Cha pilots say, "hey! lets go cheap and maybe we can get some of the flying Comair is going to do !".

Its all in your head, But do whatever it takes to make sure you dont feel guilty about calling other pilots whores.

 

[jaybird]

Comair goes on strike for 89 days. Gambles it all.



Not a single FO I fly with has a good thing to say about the CHa pilots when we see one of their planes at our terminal in CVG.

Usually it is something in the order of "scumbags, whores, back stabbers".

Just telling you how it is.

They're all haters.

I love it too when I'm in CVG and I'll hear some gay remark about us over ops, but I've never had anyone come say something to my face.

 

[TWAER]

Comair goes on strike for 89 days. Gambles it all.

Cha pilots say, "hey! lets go cheap and maybe we can get some of the flying Comair is going to do !".



This is the kind of people you would be associated with.

Not a single FO I fly with has a good thing to say about the CHa pilots when we see one of their planes at our terminal in CVG.

Usually it is something in the order of "scumbags, whores, back stabbers".

Just telling you how it is.

That is about the funniest thing I have read today. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. I love when private pilots post on this board.

 

[Afixedwing]

Don’t get me wrong I’m itching for a chance to fly one but what I am hearing is a 10-year Capt. will be a 57.00/hr that’s defiantly not going to do it for the pay they are offering.

actually it is $77/hr

 

[Cracker]

Everyone has brought up some very good points about both airlines...some points are a little misleading at times, though. I do agree with the statement that you should go with who hires you first.

But, after reading all of the posts I can't help but wonder. If CHQ is so bad, as many posts are saying, then why is it that you never hear CHQ crews complaining? They always seem to be very happy with their QOL and contract and their company and growth prospects. These sentiments range from CHQ's most senior Captains to the most junior FOs.

You hear nothing but complaining on these websites from other airlines but you'll never meet a CHQ crew that denies a jumpseater, complains about pay, complains about schedules, complains too much about bases, complains about junior manning(CHQ doesn't have it), etc. etc.

So, when choosing any company to work for, not just an airline, it may be worth it to look to see how happy the employees are as whole. I'm sure it is just a product of coming to a website like these, so I don't like to this generalization...but it seems that CHQ seems happy with their place in the airline industry whiles others on this thread are looking for (or complaining about) greener pastures.

This is just an uneducated observation from me and has no statistical data to back it up.

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

Everyone has brought up some very good points about both airlines...some points are a little misleading at times, though. I do agree with the statement that you should go with who hires you first.

But, after reading all of the posts I can't help but wonder. If CHQ is so bad, as many posts are saying, then why is it that you never hear CHQ crews complaining? They always seem to be very happy with their QOL and contract and their company and growth prospects. These sentiments range from CHQ's most senior Captains to the most junior FOs.

You hear nothing but complaining on these websites from other airlines but you'll never meet a CHQ crew that denies a jumpseater, complains about pay, complains about schedules, complains too much about bases, complains about junior manning(CHQ doesn't have it), etc. etc.

So, when choosing any company to work for, not just an airline, it may be worth it to look to see how happy the employees are as whole. I'm sure it is just a product of coming to a website like these, so I don't like to this generalization...but it seems that CHQ seems happy with their place in the airline industry whiles others on this thread are looking for (or complaining about) greener pastures.

This is just an uneducated observation from me and has no statistical data to back it up.

These people know they screwed themselves and every one else in the Regional world. They know they would look even more foolish if they complained

 

[Cracker]

As I was saying...

 

[KingAirer]

ASA must be miserable.

 

[TWAER]

These people know they screwed themselves and every one else in the Regional world. They know they would look even more foolish if they complained

Right buddy, how did I screw myself or anyone else when I got a pay raise and QOL improvement with the last contract. Have you ever heard that $hit rolls downhill? Tell me how your next contract is going to be sooooooooo great when your buddies at mainline take a huge pay cut??

I tell you what, you are an embarrassment to COmair or wherever you work. We have some guys like you here and let me say I am glad I do not have to fly with them very often.

 

[d.fitz]

I find it funny that many of you feel that we at CHQ sit around the crew room and decide how best to screw you. If you are unhappy, then go somewhere else. If you dont like what CHQ is doing - please tell Bryan Bedford. He is the CEO.

As for QOL, I know a lot of guys at other regionals that have it much worse. But what do I know, I have only been with the company 7 months. Oh yeah, I have 18 days off and a commutable schedule for October. God this company sucks : )

BTW - do you guys go to Walmart and tell the greeter that he is a whore??? Its just a job man...

 

[atrdriver]

ASA must be miserable.

No, overall ASA is a pretty good place to work. We have good equipment, good maintenance overall, great pass benefits, fairly good destinations, and for the most part the people are great. One reason that I complain is that I see how much better it could be with very minimal effort from management, which they are not willing to make. Right not, being in contract negotiations, things are obviously a little tense, and the company is doing it's best to screw with people, but that won't last forever. And whether we get a big pay raise (I don't think we will), we still have a pretty good contract, at least when it's followed.

atrdriver

 

[Cracker]

atrdriver,
Very well stated. I'm sure that's the comment from CHQ as well.

 

[AFELLOWAVIATOR]

I find it funny that many of you feel that we at CHQ sit around the crew room and decide how best to screw you. If you are unhappy, then go somewhere else. If you dont like what CHQ is doing - please tell Bryan Bedford. He is the CEO.

As for QOL, I know a lot of guys at other regionals that have it much worse. But what do I know, I have only been with the company 7 months. Oh yeah, I have 18 days off and a commutable schedule for October. God this company sucks : )

BTW - do you guys go to Walmart and tell the greeter that he is a whore??? Its just a job man...

Lets see how "happy" you are in a couple of years. I'm just telling you people how you are looked at by all the Comair Pilots I know.

Is it THAT hard to see why you are looked down upon by a group of Pilots that went on strike to improve Regional pay and benifits only to see another group fold as quickly as you did , stopping all the momentum we put in place, and then getting our flying because of your low cost??

You know exactly what I am saying, you'r just too embarssed to admit it.

 

[KingAirer]

Lets see how "happy" you are in a couple of years. I'm just telling you people how you are looked at by all the Comair Pilots I know.

Is it THAT hard to see why you are looked down upon by a group of Pilots that went on strike to improve Regional pay and benifits only to see another group fold as quickly as you did , stopping all the momentum we put in place, and then getting our flying because of your low cost??

You know exactly what I am saying, you'r just too embarssed to admit it.

Boooo!

 

[BoilerUP]

Comair did not negotiate their contract in a post-9/11 environment. They negotiated during one of the biggest booms in commercial aviation history, when every airline was "rasing the bar" on compensation.

Comair did not have their company trying to start up a non-union, alter-ego carrier to take their current flying.

Chautauqua is not Comair, nor are or were their situations the same. If you have a problem with CHQ flying DL Connection, take it up with DAL managment. "THEY" took away "YOUR" flying, not any Chautauqua pilot.