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Cessna 401/402 Aerial Survey Pilots (Home Based)

johnt1969

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Guys/Gals,

I've posted a job below with the contact info for the CP. I'm more than happy to walk the qualifying resumes in to his office and if I do that they will definitely get looked at. I've helped quite a few people get in the door. If you want me to walk in your resume just send me a PM and I'll give you my email address. I'll only walk in resumes for people who have the appropriate experience. You don't have to nail the times on the nose but if you're just out of school or something like I won't be able to help. I'm not a miracle worker. haha.

Thanks,
John


Cessna 401/402 Aerial Survey Pilots (Home Based)

Company: 3001 Inc.

Location: Peachtree City, GA. Pilots do not need to live in the area.

Required Travel: Extensive travel required

Job Type: Full time salaried pilot with benefits.

Description:
Pilots needed for rapidly growing aerial surveying company based just south of Atlanta, Ga. Job requires extensive travel to all parts of the United States as well as some travel out of the country. Pilot must be able to operate the Cessna 401/402 in a single pilot setting and fly precise lines for the mapping equipment. It is also necessary to be able to get along with co-workers, FSS, and ATC. Flexibility and adaptability to changes are a part of the job and must be handled with ease. Normal schedule is 20 days on and 10 days off.

Pilots receive a competitive salary with full benefits (401k, Insurance, PTO etc.). Prior mapping experience is highly desirable but not necessary.

Requirements:
Fixed Wing Commercial Multi-Engine Rating. IFR Current.
Minimum open insurance requirements: 2000 TT/1000 ME.
We will consider pilots with 1000 TT/500 ME.

Contact Information: Matt Boone mboone@3001inc.com

Preferred Response Method:
Please send a resume and short cover letter with your contact information to both email addresses listed above. Your resume can be in word format or just pasted in to the email. We will contact you for an interview.
 

Question4U

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What is the pay? I know you put competitive salary but I was wondering what that is. Thanks
 

johnt1969

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What is the pay? I know you put competitive salary but I was wondering what that is. Thanks

I don't have specifics on starting pay but I can make an educated guess. Starting pay for flying the C-402 is probably somewhere between 40k and 45k. Depending on experience. But I'm not 100% sure about that. It will be in that range though.
 

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You guys doing LiDAR? Let me know if you are having trouble finding pilots for your operation.

I sure as heck am!
 

johnt1969

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You guys doing LiDAR? Let me know if you are having trouble finding pilots for your operation.

I sure as heck am!


Yep. We do LiDAR, DMC, ADS and a little flim work. We've been having a little bit of trouble finding qualified pilots. Hence the employment post.

We're not a startup. The company is 3001 Inc. We have about 8 401/402's, a Turbo Commander 690A and a couple Lear Jets that we survey in.
 

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Might have something to do with the 20 days on. Ouch. Not a bad paying gig for a low time guy though.
 

johnt1969

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Might have something to do with the 20 days on. Ouch. Not a bad paying gig for a low time guy though.

Yup. I aggree. The 20 days is the only thing that keeps people away and it's usually the main reason for people leaving. We've been trying to get that changed but it doen't sound like it's going to happen. The thing is... we have one of the better schedules for surveying places. In fact. I haven't really heard of any better. Most places they just go out and work until the job is done. The pilots and operators are gone for months at a time. At least we have a schedule and they stick to it. That's one of the benefits.

Truethfully.... I'm used to the 20 days now. It was a bit hard at first. We also get PTO days and 10 days off in a row is a long time. I'm actually going to have 13 days off this month because I took a few days PTO. It's nice having a half of a month off.
 

The_Russian

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We have staffing issues for the same reasons. My bosses try to stretch it out on every job. Anything more than two weeks for most people is too much. I am working on building a rotation for my pilots that gets them home to their families.

How are your PTO days distributed? Can you put them in the middle of the 20 days?

Can't find any operators either. What are you paying yours? We pay 15 bucks an hour plus expenses including food. Some of them get 80-90 hours a week.

We bust our butts! Actually, I am getting ready to go fly right now!
 

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Russian, what kind of planes do you fly? How does the travelling happen, on the airlines or do you fly them to the different jobs?
 

johnt1969

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We have staffing issues for the same reasons. My bosses try to stretch it out on every job. Anything more than two weeks for most people is too much. I am working on building a rotation for my pilots that gets them home to their families.

How are your PTO days distributed? Can you put them in the middle of the 20 days?

Can't find any operators either. What are you paying yours? We pay 15 bucks an hour plus expenses including food. Some of them get 80-90 hours a week.

We bust our butts! Actually, I am getting ready to go fly right now!

The PTO can't really be taken in the middle of a rotation. It's always at the beginning or end. Usually we have to get it approved a bit ahead of time as well. Just like any other job.

I don't know what the operators get paid. They're all salaried employees as well. They get the per diem just like the pilots do too.

None of our pay is flight time dependant. I like it that way. Especially in the summer because if you're trying to do DMC in Florida you could go weeks without getting a dime. If it was all flight time dependant then the guys on DMC and ADS would get screwed compared to the people on Lidar. I believe the moral is better with everyone as salaried employees that have a set schedule. Even though everyone would like it to be less than 20 days on... it's way better knowing what the schedule is a year out than wondering what it will be from week to week. I can easily plan the rest of my life.
 

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Russian, what kind of planes do you fly? How does the travelling happen, on the airlines or do you fly them to the different jobs?
The Nam-a-jama PA-31-325 Aerospacecraft.

Traveling can be done on an airline to get to the plane or you can take the plane from your base if it goes home with you. Depends on the situation and the job.
 

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The PTO can't really be taken in the middle of a rotation. It's always at the beginning or end. Usually we have to get it approved a bit ahead of time as well. Just like any other job.

I don't know what the operators get paid. They're all salaried employees as well. They get the per diem just like the pilots do too.

None of our pay is flight time dependant. I like it that way. Especially in the summer because if you're trying to do DMC in Florida you could go weeks without getting a dime. If it was all flight time dependant then the guys on DMC and ADS would get screwed compared to the people on Lidar. I believe the moral is better with everyone as salaried employees that have a set schedule. Even though everyone would like it to be less than 20 days on... it's way better knowing what the schedule is a year out than wondering what it will be from week to week. I can easily plan the rest of my life.
We have a min pay per month and flight time goes on top of that. Certain contracts permit per diem and certain ones the company pays the expenses. It all depends.
 

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I've got limited time in a PA-31 and quite a bit of time in a Baron 58 and Cessna 310. I've done Aerial Photography in a Cessna 182 with a bearing mounted swivel mounted in the bottom of the hull. We flew the missions in the Southern California area. I've also flown traffic watch (following freeways at 1000' agl) in SoCal as well. I am about 192 from the bottom of RAH's seniority list so I might be looking for a job soon. I'm interested in this kind of flying but I have a wife and daughter and I just wonder if the schedule would be too much for a family man. Do you currently have any pilots that have families and if they do, how does it work? Thanks.
 

The_Russian

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I've got limited time in a PA-31 and quite a bit of time in a Baron 58 and Cessna 310. I've done Aerial Photography in a Cessna 182 with a bearing mounted swivel mounted in the bottom of the hull. We flew the missions in the Southern California area. I've also flown traffic watch (following freeways at 1000' agl) in SoCal as well. I am about 192 from the bottom of RAH's seniority list so I might be looking for a job soon. I'm interested in this kind of flying but I have a wife and daughter and I just wonder if the schedule would be too much for a family man. Do you currently have any pilots that have families and if they do, how does it work? Thanks.
Having a girlfriend and my dog at home, it is difficult for me to be away for long periods of time. Three weeks is about all I'll do unless the money is right. Just depends on the situation.

However, my girlfriend doesn't mind when I am away and the time apart makes us stronger in our relationship. If your family doesn't like you on a four day trip, they will hate this job. You will be in the air 8-12 hours a day and will be out of contact for four+ hours at a time. 2-3 weeks on the road. The flying is challenging and rewarding if you want to increase your stick and SA skills. (Especially on those low-level, night, mountainous terrain missions)

I am about to hire a pilot with a wife and two kids. We will see how it goes.
 

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I fly a Lear doing survey using an IFSAR system and our rotations are 35 days on and about 28 days off. Definitely not conducive to having young kids at home!
 

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The CP has hired 2 guys that started yesterday. He's still acepting resumes but he's not going to hire anyone else until he sees how the new guys do and how the schedule shakes out when they get going.

I do believe we will hire at least one more guy because we found out yesterday that one of our pilots finally got called in to work for ATC so he's leaving. He's a guy that had been working here for almost 4 years.
 
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