Career Advice for the 2008 hiring boom

[Gulfstream 200]

Pilotyip bragging about making 100K at age 34 flying around in a POS dc9 or da20 all night long, plus being a "check airman" (READ: we are too F'n cheap to de real training)...HAHAHAHA

Hello!

There are plenty of us younger than that making more than that who have very good jobs (and 4 yr degrees) -- imagine that...
And we certainly are NOT industry standouts.

Dont ever skip the degree. Its just a simple qualification these days. Anything less with keep you out of 95% of availiable jobs. You can fly like Chuck Yeager and have 24 type ratings at age 30 but without a simple piece of paper you are in the garbage can.

The choice is yours.

 

[banned username 2]

Pilotyip bragging about making 100K at age 34 flying around in a POS dc9 or da20 all night long, plus being a "check airman" (READ: we are too F'n cheap to de real training)...HAHAHAHA

He isn't 34, he is "around 60"...

 

[Jack Schitt]

He isn't 34, he is "around 60"...

lay off the viagra pilotYip, you can't think straight!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

ooopss...dumb me.
guess that college WAS a waste of time and money....


caught again.

 

[kabz]

Hey ... some pretty hot chicks in those colleges ...

Seems like a good idea to have a degree to fall back on if you don't make it flying.

 

[bigD]

Hey ... some pretty hot chicks in those colleges ...

Seems like a good idea to have a degree to fall back on if you don't make it flying.

You're not kidding! I can't walk across campus without muttering "Holy f*ck!" under my breath at least several times. I just can't figure out why none of these chicks ever seem to be in the physics department.

 

[Big Air]

3 pages of posts

After 3 pages of posts, it comes down to a discussion of hot chix!

 

[freighthumper]

So how about you just go to flight school get all your ratings, work as a CFI to pay the bills while you are in college..all the while bulding time..and contacts...when you get that entry level 135/121 job take online classes to finish that degree while you are on reserve and overnights..that way when you graduate youve got the PIC turbine..youve got contacts that are way better than a bunch of Aviation college grommets who are all scrambling for that 18k a year "dream" job...If that 2002 high school grad starts that way hes stil got 6 years to get that worthless/pricesless degree in Aviation Uselessnes Management..Cause you all know someone without a degree is most certainly an infrerior pilot to one with a degree, I mean how could 1000 tubine PIC flying in the REAL world ever compare to a 10 hours of CRM training in a cozy RJ sim at some over priced aviation college.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Hearing all the positive info sure does give inspiration to my studies and flying!

 

[Checks]

I will add that USAJET is an option for the older pilot trying to gain that PIC Turbine time.

He can go to a regional and make a whopping 17K or go to USA JET and make double that. With USAJET he will also know what his domicle will be so he wont have to be in a crashpad while his family is 3 states away.

Doesnt sound like too bad of a deal to me

 

[pilotyip]

Thanks son

Not really my son. But also remember at USA Jet a 4 yr degree carries no weight in the screening process, because it has no bearing on a candidate success in traininig, and upgrade to Captain.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Ah degrees again?...

 

[banned username 2]

Ah degrees again?...

Like a broken record... Yawn...

Maybe I should merge this thread with the "Lowering the already low bar" thread and change the name to "Lowering the already low bar of the American Education Level"

 

[rettofly]

Like a broken record... Yawn...

Maybe I should merge this thread with the "Lowering the already low bar" thread and change the name to "Lowering the already low bar of the American Education Level"

Now there's a thought! Maybe we need a rule on this site that prevents the Johnny One Note posters from going on and on ...and on. Islandflyer comes to mind. Haven't heard from Ductleak for a while. Maybe he got his interview at last...NOT!

 

[70Cuda]

People never cease to amaze me. To hear someone actually say they didn't learn or get anything after going through 4 years of college level education is just too pathetic. He11, if I was clobbered on the head by a one-legged purple monkey wearing panties while walking through a New York suburb I would still be able to say I've learned something.

And to use examples of people like Bill Gates as an example of not needing to go to college in order to further your smarts is also just too pathetic and ignorant. Gee, by using that logic maybe I still have a chance at getting into the NBA since so many of the players are drop-outs as well.

 

[Dieterly]

Just flew with a former F-111 pilot from the Australian AF and according to him very few of their pilots have any kind of degree. I wonder how they do it...

 

[hydroflyer]

Well I guess I can try and mix this up a bit. I am currently in a position where I have a pair of 2-year degrees in aviation and set myself up to have just about all of the first 2 years prereqs. for entry into a degree program for aviation, atmospheric sciences, or engineering. Unfortunately because I am flying freight, I don't expect to be in one place for too long so attending a classroom session isn't looking too likely. The atmospheric science and engineering degrees require lab work and attending a classroom which cannot be done with the schedule I have now. So I am looking at doing an online course, question is who should I go through and in what degree? I would like to go for a business degree due to its versatility but I am having trouble deciding. For those who have done online degree programs or looked into them, what are some degrees that are offered and through what schools? This question isn't limited to the previously mentioned degrees because I would be willing to try something else different if it were to peak my interest.
I am very happy where I am at currently and now that my schedule has become more routine I think the time now would be good to start taking some classes for a 4 year degree. The degree is both a backup and because it is something I have always seen myself achieving and it just doesn't seem right for me not to have one. (Not a knock on anyone who doesn't have one or doesn't want one.)
So any suggestions or comments? I've looked at what Riddle has to offer, but I would like other options as well.