Cape Air getting Q400's or ATR 72's?

[BLUE-ICE-MAN]

Rumor on the streets is that Cape is going to get 70 seat flying in IAH soon?

 

[ackattacker]

Nah, A380's. We'll get those jets by june. You heard it here first.

 

[NEDude]

Every Continental Connection affiliate is rumored to be getting large cabin class turboprops. CommutAir is rumored to be looking at the Q400. Cape Air the Q-400 or ATR. Colgan the Saab 2000. CAL is probably waiting to see who gets them first to shell out a bunch of new flying, both in IAH and EWR.

 

[Tram]

I asked Chuck Colgan about the Saab 2000 rumor and he went off to tell me about how Colgan will never be a jet airline?? He also told me he wished the rumor had never gotten out about the Saab 2000's as he would "hate to let down the pilots, it if they didn't get them."

Basically, I think Continental told all their affiliates that they would like to see them grow to larger airplanes, from what Chuck told me, but then he went back talking to how they will never be a jet airline, like he thought the Saab 2000 was a jet..

 

[foreverfo]

Every Continental Connection affiliate is rumored to be getting large cabin class turboprops. CommutAir is rumored to be looking at the Q400. Cape Air the Q-400 or ATR. Colgan the Saab 2000. CAL is probably waiting to see who gets them first to shell out a bunch of new flying, both in IAH and EWR.

I don't think any new props are allowed to fly in to EWR anymore. I only see one corporate 328 in there.

 

[NEDude]

I don't think any new props are allowed to fly in to EWR anymore. I only see one corporate 328 in there.

I have heard multiple variations on the same theme. Some versions say no 19 seaters. Some say no new turboprop flying at all. Some say there is a phase out time frame for all turboprop operations.

However CAL is talking about large turboprops with its connection partners, and EWR is widely talked about in those discussions. So that would lead one to believe that there is some room for props in EWR.

 

[nimtz]

Gee, just what EWR needs! More small fricking airplanes...

 

[TheGreatChecko]

Are you talking about the ATR-42s they fly in Guam?

They apparently have three flying as Continental Express.

http://www.flycapeairjobs.com/equipment.html

 

[CA1900]

Gee, just what EWR needs! More small fricking airplanes...

So which is going to have a worse impact on EWR: A 78-seat turboprop that can move fast until close-in, or a 37-seat jet that has to slow down farther out?

 

[Headfake14]

I heard the Q400 will out climb the CRJ (VSI) up through the low teens...thats what I've heard, don't know for sure. But of course it only trues out around 320-350...the ATR72 doesn't climb well at all and KTAS is about 270. Maybe the 72-500 is better, dunno. We have the -212s.

 

[V2plus25]

The 212's are OK, 212A are better (6 blades), but the 42-500's are rockets (compared to the other ones). Don't know about the CRJ vs. the Q400, but I heard the Q400 single-engine will exceed 250 KIAS below 10,000. Kick a$$

 

[nimtz]

So which is going to have a worse impact on EWR: A 78-seat turboprop that can move fast until close-in, or a 37-seat jet that has to slow down farther out?

Check the joy of the delay programs this summer especially if you are low on the Continental slot food chain. The answer is neither...

 

[CLE145CA]

Are you talking about the ATR-42s they fly in Guam?

They apparently have three flying as Continental Express.

Actually, the have ATRs fly as Continental Connection...not Express.

The only airline currently authorized to use the "Express" name is ExpressJet.

 

[aa73]

Actually, the have ATRs fly as Continental Connection...not Express.

The only airline currently authorized to use the "Express" name is ExpressJet.

CLECA,

Why wouldn't CO look at giving props to XJT, and just to CO Connection carriers? I know XJT used to have props, what's to preclude them from having them again? (I know you guys wouldn't be too thrilled, just curious.)

 

[Mookie]

When they IPO'd part of the deal was that they would not operate turboprop planes again....ergo...no props on property or it's an SEC violation.

Mookie

 

[Ex737Driver]

I have heard multiple variations on the same theme. Some versions say no 19 seaters. Some say no new turboprop flying at all. Some say there is a phase out time frame for all turboprop operations.

However CAL is talking about large turboprops with its connection partners, and EWR is widely talked about in those discussions. So that would lead one to believe that there is some room for props in EWR.

Source? Not likely. TP are not allowed into EWR any more and I doubt CAL would be interested in more delays in and out of EWR/IAH for equipment that can occupy jet space. Sabbs or ATR's for Commutair out of CLE would not be out of the realm of possibility.

Why wouldn't CO look at giving props to XJT, and just to CO Connection carriers? I know XJT used to have props, what's to preclude them from having them again? (I know you guys wouldn't be too thrilled, just curious.)

Express has stated in the past that CAL has approached them to do TP flying, but XJT said they could not do it any more and be profitable. We will see if that rings true once oil hits $70.00 a barrel.

 

[BLUE-ICE-MAN]

I've heard that the flying would be out of IAD. This would be in addition to the GUM flying currently in place.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

I've heard that the flying would be out of IAD. This would be in addition to the GUM flying currently in place.

I've heard eating chocolate donuts, secretly, around the side of a 7-11 could earn you the nickname "cakes".

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

I heard the Q400 will out climb the CRJ (VSI) up through the low teens...thats what I've heard, don't know for sure..

Maybe a light Q400 vs. a heavy CRJ. The plane does well down low, but it is still a prop. I think once the rj get some airspeed on it above 10k it does better than the megawhacker.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

When they IPO'd part of the deal was that they would not operate turboprop planes again....ergo...no props on property or it's an SEC violation.

Mookie

This isn't true at all. XJT simply has no interest in operating props.

-Neal

 

[BLUE-ICE-MAN]

Hey Otto,

I was thinking to myself, that you'd be the only one who knew my "on stage" name. Your right I still scarf a few chocolate covered doughnuts late night from time to time. How's it going man? PM me if you get a chance.

 

[BLUE-ICE-MAN]

Here is the source:

http://www.ainonline.com/Departments/AIN_commuter.html

 

[P-Dawg_QX]

but I heard the Q400 single-engine will exceed 250 KIAS below 10,000. Kick a$$

We're actually modifying our procedures to take advantage of this fact. Normal takeoffs will now be performed single-engine. #2 will be started while climbing through 10,000, then shut down again decending through 10,000. This will save the company an estimated $2.4 million per year in fuel.

 

[ackattacker]

Here is the source:

http://www.ainonline.com/Departments/AIN_commuter.html

Now, Continental has begun shopping for another partner to fly the 50-seat turboprops from Houston. Also attending the convention, Cape Air CEO Dan Wolf acknowledged that Continental has approached his airline to perform the service. Already flying three ATR 42s from Guam, Cape Air would prefer to fly ATR 72s, however.

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