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Da Vinci

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sorry, i originally posted this one to the wrong forum

wondering if anyone has any real advise or answer to this question. when i was 18yrs old, me and my buddies used to go to canada (because you can drink beer, watch naked women and buy prostitutes...haha...too expensive!!)

anyway...one trip i failed to see a stop sign and got pulled over by montreals finest. the ticket was for 200 dollars. i refused to pay because there was no stop sign, it had been pushed over by a snow plow.

anway, within several months of threatening letters, i got a letter which basically advised if i set foot in canada again, i'll be arrested...and the ticket was now for like 500 dollars or something...late fees.

maybe 6 years later, i decided i might want to visit there some day so i tried to contact canadian DMV to 'fix' this issue. they could not find any record...but i may have been in contact with the wrong department.

so now, it has been 13 years or so and i'm hoping to be an international pilot ...you know...left seat 747 :) ...how bad is that? should i mention it? do they really keeps traffic stop/no ticket payments history that long? anyone know about this?
 

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Da Vinci said:
sorry, i originally posted this one to the wrong forum

You mean it was in YGBSM where it belongs?

I doubt if any country holds a grudge on a traffic warrant for that long- especially the fuzzy, lovable Canadians!

Game on.
 

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They may very well keep those records. I know at our airline we've had FA's that in the past have had DUI convictions and some with other misdemeanors that have had problems with Canadaian customs. About a year ago maybe more, Canada issued some ruling wherebye they would be checking for criminal backgrounds for all crewmembers entering Canada. I think this may have been backlash for the U.S. policies in place now since 9/11. Anyhow we were told by our company that if you had a conviction in your past then you may not be allowed into Canada. Obviously this presents a problem if you are a crew member who's supposed to overnight there or even if you are just doing a turn there and have to clear customs. And these were convictions in the U.S. not in Canada.

Good luck.
 

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I think because it was more than 10 years ago, it wont matter. IF you have a warrant out, that would be a problem though. I think it would have dropped after that long though.
 

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The DMV would have nothing to do with it now. You need to contact the Montreal Police Service (Service de police de la Ville de Montréal). But before you do that, brush up on your french. Good luck with that.
 

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MJG said:
They may very well keep those records. I know at our airline we've had FA's that in the past have had DUI convictions and some with other misdemeanors that have had problems with Canadaian customs. About a year ago maybe more, Canada issued some ruling wherebye they would be checking for criminal backgrounds for all crewmembers entering Canada. I think this may have been backlash for the U.S. policies in place now since 9/11. Anyhow we were told by our company that if you had a conviction in your past then you may not be allowed into Canada. Obviously this presents a problem if you are a crew member who's supposed to overnight there or even if you are just doing a turn there and have to clear customs. And these were convictions in the U.S. not in Canada.

Good luck.

Of course these same schanigans have no problem letting in all the islamic terrorists who do not even have so much as an ID and seek "asylum" as a crutch and instead setting up camp to later drift south to attack the USA. Of course all the time they are up there they are getting free healthcare, and a place to stay courtesy of the taxpayers. DUI vs blowing up a bus full of children. Think long and hard about that for a minute. That just makes me sick--and I thought our politicians were bad! To all those responsible........go FUCK yourselves!!
 

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Since you won't be taking your driver's license into Canada with you...and you were never fingerprinted in Canada, you don't have much to worry about. The bench warrant in Canada is cross-referenced to your DL number, and your name/address. (If your name is "John Smith", you are bulletproof. If your name is "Dick Gozinia" or "Selma Junkoff", it's a little riskier)

However...if you have a DUI in the USA, the new cross-border arrangements mean that any felony convictions in the USA (or vice versa) show up in the other country's records.

Pilots and F/A's processing through Canadian customs have learned that any USA DUI is classified as a felony in Canada, even if it was not classified as a felony in the USA. Unless you get approval to enter the country - coordinated thru our State Department - you are persona non grata in the Great White North.
 

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Occam's Razor said:
However...if you have a DUI in the USA, the new cross-border arrangements mean that any felony convictions in the USA (or vice versa) show up in the other country's records.

This just occured to me. Since President Bush was convicted of DUI almost 30 yrs ago does he have to jump through these hoops every time as well? This whole thing is insane, of course but just got me wondering
 

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This just occured to me. Since President Bush was convicted of DUI almost 30 yrs ago does he have to jump through these hoops every time as well? This whole thing is insane, of course but just got me wondering
I wish!

I guess he "knows" someone at the State Department...

It'd be fun to watch the Canucks 'cuff him.
 

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Occam's Razor said:
However...if you have a DUI in the USA, the new cross-border arrangements mean that any felony convictions in the USA (or vice versa) show up in the other country's records.
That is so insane, it is hysterical. The people that used to sell our bootlegers whiskey so that they could smuggle it back into the US during prohibition, have made DUI a felony? Insane.
 
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Occam's Razor said:
Since you won't be taking your driver's license into Canada with you...
Why wouldn't he be taking his Driver License with him? Where would you recommend he leave it?




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FN FAL said:
That is so insane, it is hysterical. The people that used to sell our bootlegers whiskey so that they could smuggle it back into the US during prohibition, have made DUI a felony? Insane.



OK, not trying to hijack, but I'm going on an Alaskan cruise next June, and have been the recipient of the dreaded Dewey award in 2001. I recall that they would stop somewhere in Canada....... Should I wedge a chair under the cabin door and refuse to come out, or what? Do you have to carry a passport with you? Sorry, but my hillbilly @ss ain't ever been on a big ol' boat that I wasn't throwin' a lure............
 

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hoop said:
OK, not trying to hijack, but I'm going on an Alaskan cruise next June, and have been the recipient of the dreaded Dewey award in 2001. I recall that they would stop somewhere in Canada....... Should I wedge a chair under the cabin door and refuse to come out, or what? Do you have to carry a passport with you? Sorry, but my hillbilly @ss ain't ever been on a big ol' boat that I wasn't throwin' a lure............
It's getting that way, aint it...screw em!

I aint leaving the states any more and them countries can kiss my lilly white ass. My wife and I got passports 5 years ago ...since 9/11 my wife has changed her mind about going to Aruba this, Jamica that..."let's go to Mexico?"

Screw em...we'll spend our weekends in Shiocton at the city shooting range and the airport bar, long before we'll spend a dime traveling overseas. Screw them.
 
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thank god i don't have a dui...or any other crime history for that matter. just a stupid traffic ticket. and my DL has changed 100 times since i've moved so many times to different states. seriously, should i let the sleeping dog lie?
 

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Da Vinci said:
thank god i don't have a dui...or any other crime history for that matter. just a stupid traffic ticket. and my DL has changed 100 times since i've moved so many times to different states. seriously, should i let the sleeping dog lie?
I would follow the earlier poster's advice...maybe start out by contacting your own attorney and go from there.
 

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and don't get me started on canada...like for example, quebec (whatever spelling) wants to join france...hey i'm not joking. they want to defect from canada - ok i'm over simplifing but certainly one of the main reasons is they hate english, and dare i say america....so sounds like france right?? i digress...
 

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TonyC said:
Why wouldn't he be taking his Driver License with him? Where would you recommend he leave it?




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Um...

1. He doesn't need to it fly.
2. He needs a passport anyway, so why bring the DL?
3. The DL was used to get the traffic ticket...so it was a subtle hint to LEAVE IT BEHIND!
 

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Occam's Razor said:
Um... ...so it was a subtle hint to LEAVE IT BEHIND!
Hmmm...

Seems like shady advice to me. If he can't go there with his DL, maybe he shouldn't go there at all.

Anyway, you didn't answer the second half. Where should he leave it?


The last time I flew without my DL it was because we sanitized before Ops Sorties. If I took it out of my wallet these days, it'd wind up lost.

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Da Vinci said:
and don't get me started on canada...like for example, quebec (whatever spelling) wants to join france...hey i'm not joking. they want to defect from canada - ok i'm over simplifing but certainly one of the main reasons is they hate english, and dare i say america....so sounds like france right?? i digress...
Well, not exactly...a political party in Quebec, (the Parti Quebecois) actually represents those within the province that wish to have Quebec separate from Canada and form their own autonomous country. They don't want to "join France". The last referendum in 1995 I believe was incredibly close: 49.9 to 50.1 percent against separation.

The funny thing is they want to continue to use Canadian currency, and probably those who have cush jobs with the federal government are voting no each time...
 

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TonyC said:
Hmmm...

Seems like shady advice to me. If he can't go there with his DL, maybe he shouldn't go there at all.

Anyway, you didn't answer the second half. Where should he leave it?


The last time I flew without my DL it was because we sanitized before Ops Sorties. If I took it out of my wallet these days, it'd wind up lost.

:)


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Here's the original post: "anyway...one trip i failed to see a stop sign and got pulled over by montreals finest. the ticket was for 200 dollars. i refused to pay because there was no stop sign, it had been pushed over by a snow plow."

- He got a ticket on his driver's license.
- He can go there without a driver's license (I never carry mine when I fly).
- He should leave it somewhere else: In his car might be convienent.
- If you understand "sanitized before Ops" then you understand the logic behind not taking a document that might prompt the Canadian police to arrest him.
- Maybe he isn't a forgetful as you when it comes to ID's?




 
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