Can someone tell me the "GoJet" story?

[wms]

they voted a union in--enough said--

First of all is it ALPA? Second, There are scabs in unions also, even ALPA. That doesn't make what they did right. They're still on the list, for good.

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Saw a Blowjet crew today. The FO said "whaaatuuup", I read his ID and shook my head walking away... Lowlife scumbags.

 

[redbook]

Redbrook,

Man, I had a bunch of buddies who flew these in the mid-90's:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0687373/M/

Good ol' days, eh? The mid-1990's weren't so bad after-all. I spent a lot of time riding around in the 41's and ATRs on TSA. Nothing like seeing the TWA logos all over the ramp in St. Louis:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0183207/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0711802/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0160588/M/

Keep up your fight, Brother. I support your efforts 100%.

Thanks BizPilot,

Those pictures bring back lots of memories. Unbelievable to think that after all those years of hard work making money for our employer, we are treated to an alter ego staffed by a small group of pilots eager to steal seniority.

 

[rsspilot]

G0jet is an alter ego carrier created by Trans States Airlines management to whipsaw the Trans States pilot group. The pilots who went to g0jet went there knowing that they were joining an alter ego. They were looking to leap forward in seniority, and were willing to go to any lengths to do so.

here is a brief summary.

ALPA President to Trans States Management: We'll Cooperate, but We're Not Backing Down
ST LOUIS, MO - The head of the union that represents pilots at St. Louis-based Trans States Airlines today told pilots at a rally at Lambert Airport that the union is taking a carrot-and-stick approach to resolving labor issues at the airline.
"I have come here today to personally issue a public challenge to your management to alter the course that they have taken in dealing with their pilots," said Capt. Duane Woerth, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, International, in remarks prepared for the rally.
"I have come to challenge them to work cooperatively with our union to help build this airline for the future. And I have come to offer to help promote new business opportunities for this airline and new job opportunities for its ALPA pilots. I am convinced that, together, we can build Trans States into a strong, solid company for decades to come," Woerth said.
"I have also come here to draw public attention to the fact that, sadly, our efforts to discuss the issues before us in cooperation with the company have, to date, met with little to no success. Using only the most tenuous thread of justification, Trans States management has sought to create an alter-ego carrier that they intend to staff with pilots not sheltered by an ALPA-bargained contract," he said.
"In response to this tactic, we have been forced to file a grievance concerning this alter-ego carrier, because management has made it clear that GoJet exists solely to evade ALPA and the TSA-ALPA agreement. The clearest proof? Management's premature and illegal attempt to install a separate union before GoJet employs any pilots or begins operations. While management's public claim that a contractual restriction makes it impossible to extend the ALPA contract to larger jets, I assure you that we can readily overcome this very common obstacle," Woerth said.
"The management at Trans States has concluded that they have some strong opportunities for growth of their company-in new sectors, in new markets, on new routes, and flying for new carriers. I applaud that vision. I salute it. That being said, I insist that the Air Line Pilots Association and the pilots we represent play our legitimate role in tangibly contributing to that growth. There is absolutely no justifiable reason to create an alter-ego carrier or a carrier that is 'walled off' from our pilots, whose sacrifices and hard work have built this company. GoJet may indeed be a viable operation moving forward-but only with our pilots in those cockpits," he said.
"Unfortunately, time is running out, because the management team at TSA has decided to do more than just stop talking to our pilots and their representatives. They have made the unfortunate - and potentially devastating - decision to crack down on our union and our union representatives here in St. Louis and elsewhere," he said.
"Standing right here with me today are two good ALPA representatives-officers who put their necks on the line for their brothers and sisters-who have recently been unjustifiably fired by TSA. The Executive Council of our International union was so outraged by these maneuvers that it recently voted to make these fired pilots financially whole until they are rightfully returned to their cockpits. That's what being union is all about. I will not tolerate attacks on, or interference with, our union representatives-pilots or employees-simply because they are members or staff of this union," Woerth said.
"The climate here at Trans States Airlines does not need to be poisoned. We can start fresh today - if management accepts our offered hand and alters their course of action. If they make that change, we can build a better airline and a better environment for the future," he said.

This is continued proof of how pathetic unions are....dump them now....they have no power and just take your hard earned money.

 

[temcgrew]

This is continued proof of how pathetic unions are....dump them now....they have no power and just take your hard earned money.

So, management decides to put the hurt on 600 pilots because of a small group in the MEC? This action isn't justified at all.

You just keep thinking that about unions and see how being the "friendlier" airline pilot for such a wonderful company will get you screwed as well.

This isn't just hurting pilots hired within the last year. It is hurting everyone, checkairman, people in the training department, senior management positions and so on. It is a pitiful act.

 

[rsspilot]

Just seen a lot of flame lately about this regional called "GoJet".

Could someone give me a brief overview about the company's history, and why GoJet is considered such low-life?

I get the hunch they are PFT, and bottom-of-the-barrel in pay?

Someone please fill me in, I'd like to hear about these "Bassards"

If you really want to know, Id be happy to tell you, but its useless on here.

 

[rsspilot]

I have challenged any g0jet pilot to respond to a simple question. They defend joining an alter ego and being part of a whipsaw. However when I ask if they would join an alter ego to whipsaw, say Fedex, they fall silent.

Rsspilot and the other g0jet alter ego pilots can't/won't answer the simple question. For the millionth time:


They keep dodging, confusing, obfuscating. But you can't run from the alter ego that you joined. So answer:

Go try your alter ego game at Fedex. Tell them that you will fly the A380 for less and start with zero seniority. How do you think that will go over?

Oh, but you would "like" your job at Fedexg0jet. It wouldn't be ok there, and its not ok here.

Im answering your question Redbook.....not yes...but HELL YES if they offered me a job. I have no love for unions.....they have done nothing but hurt. Tell me the good they have done and dont say stupid things like insurance and profit sharing and days off because last time I checked every major corporation such as Xerox, HP, Dell, Microsoft, and others offer these. Guess what, no union.

 

[Flybet3]

I have challenged any g0jet pilot to respond to a simple question. They defend joining an alter ego and being part of a whipsaw. However when I ask if they would join an alter ego to whipsaw, say Fedex, they fall silent.
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And no TSA pilot has answered why they keep bitc*ing about GOJets, when TSA management is responsable.....why not quit such a peace of sh*t company like TSA. But ohhh no, all you want to do is keep bitch*ing and crying and name calling....do you think that's actually going to change anything??? geeeeez man!
pathetic

 

[Flybet3]

Once upon a time an airline took a big 'ol dump and instead of flushing they fished it out of the bowl and turned it into another airline.

The End.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! LMAO! that's good, I like that

 

[temcgrew]

And no TSA pilot has answered why they keep bitc*ing about GOJets, when TSA management is responsable.....why not quit such a peace of sh*t company like TSA. But ohhh no, all you want to do is keep bitch*ing and crying and name calling....do you think that's actually going to change anything??? geeeeez man!
pathetic

No one will because we are all emailing resume's

 

[Capn Lucky]

And no TSA pilot has answered why they keep bitc*ing about GOJets, when TSA management is responsable.....why not quit such a peace of sh*t company like TSA. But ohhh no, all you want to do is keep bitch*ing and crying and name calling....do you think that's actually going to change anything??? geeeeez man!
pathetic

I'll take this one.

We keep the story in the community's ear because of the continued pressure applied to the TSA pilot group. We have problems with the GJ pilot group because they travel incognito and hide thir ID badges. (Yes, as a rule, they are flipped over). They know they are tools in the dismantling of another pilot group and they have fun doing it. As far as them being a "union" shop, this is BS as well. Were the GJ pilots given a choice of representation? No! Managers, I mean pilots tried to bring in Local 618 and were denied until after the NMB sided with TSA Holdings. Their "Contract" is being negotiated by former TSA management for their pilot group so that oughtta be a serious winner. I have news for you guys, your union officials and TSA management are one in the same. As for quitting, I have alot invested in that place and all the chips have yet to fall.

Now my annecdotal evidence of their lack of professionalism. Some may have heard the hissey fit a female FO had on the ops freq in Chicago on Friday. That was special. Also to the little mid-eastern guy who was laughing about TSA furloughs at Flight Safety, keep laughing because you work for the same people. Your tool value will soon diminish.

 

[Smarta$$]

I'll take this one.

We keep the story in the community's ear because of the continued pressure applied to the TSA pilot group. We have problems with the GJ pilot group because they travel incognito and hide thir ID badges. (Yes, as a rule, they are flipped over). They know they are tools in the dismantling of another pilot group and they have fun doing it. As far as them being a "union" shop, this is BS as well. Were the GJ pilots given a choice of representation? No! Managers, I mean pilots tried to bring in Local 618 and were denied until after the NMB sided with TSA Holdings. Their "Contract" is being negotiated by former TSA management for their pilot group so that oughtta be a serious winner. I have news for you guys, your union officials and TSA management are one in the same. As for quitting, I have alot invested in that place and all the chips have yet to fall.

Now my annecdotal evidence of their lack of professionalism. Some may have heard the hissey fit a female FO had on the ops freq in Chicago on Friday. That was special. Also to the little mid-eastern guy who was laughing about TSA furloughs at Flight Safety, keep laughing because you work for the same people. Your tool value will soon diminish.

Too laugh at hurting another pilot by your actions is very low.

 

[jbDC9]

you scab go fcuk yourself

See there?? I knew this would come up... just surprised it's towards the bottom of page 2.

 

[Shrek]

We will NEVER forget......

 

[oceandude]

ohhhhhh noooooooooooooooo!!!