CAL Poolie email rumor?

[Captain X]

A furloughed buddy of mine said another guy told him a friend at a regional, who interviewed before the furlough, recently got an email from CAL Pilot Recruiting inquiring about continued interest in employment and if so to plan on being in class by the end of 2009. (I apologize for the atrocious sentence there)

Couple of things...

First, I didn't know CAL actually had a "pool." Any body on FI in it that can substantiate?

Second, can anybody validate this rumor or emails going out to said poolies?

I know it jives with some other rumors but if this is true then it lends some validity to such things and would be great news for our 147.

 

[contrail67]

lots of people in that rumor.

 

[xcrjdriver]

recalls?

On whether more layoffs, flight reductions or cost-cutting are ahead: “As painful as it is, we have got to make sure we keep our staffing in line with the flying we are doing. We have got to keep those in synch. We are going to continue to evaluate as we look at the fall (after the summer travel season), where we need to go.”

 

[skywdriver]

A furloughed buddy of mine said another guy told him a friend at a regional, who interviewed before the furlough, recently got an email from CAL Pilot Recruiting inquiring about continued interest in employment and if so to plan on being in class by the end of 2009. (I apologize for the atrocious sentence there)

Couple of things...

First, I didn't know CAL actually had a "pool." Any body on FI in it that can substantiate?

Second, can anybody validate this rumor or emails going out to said poolies?

I know it jives with some other rumors but if this is true then it lends some validity to such things and would be great news for our 147.

That letter did go out, that is not a rumor. However, it went out a couple of months ago. I think the plan changes daily, but I am still hoping to get back sooner than later. Deliveries for 2010 - 17 airplanes, including two 777's, don't they staff those at 40 pilots per airplane?

 

[skywdriver]

On whether more layoffs, flight reductions or cost-cutting are ahead: “As painful as it is, we have got to make sure we keep our staffing in line with the flying we are doing. We have got to keep those in synch. We are going to continue to evaluate as we look at the fall (after the summer travel season), where we need to go.”

That whole article was a joke, most of which was totally contrary to what was said at the JP Morgan (or whatever other bank) conference. The games are just beginning, and I am sure there will be more. Of course things are bad out there, but what is CAL going to do, park more airplanes because they can't sell enough first class seats??? I don't think so. They are going to take it in the shorts until the economy gets better, and they aren't going to be nearly as profitable for fiscal 09.

 

[bizicmo]

2009 net loss of aircraft. No recall for summer flying. Can't imagine they will need to up the staffing for winter flying. Unless the retiring starts up can't see it happening.

 

[ATRCA]

There will be no recalls this year. There will be no hiring this year. CAL does not have a "pool." There are plenty of rumors but there is nothing that would indicate any growth in 09. No growth means no recalls and no hiring. 2010 may be very different but I suspect thing will continue at present for some time.

 

[BN2A]

A furloughed buddy of mine said another guy told him a friend at a regional, who interviewed before the furlough, recently got an email from CAL Pilot Recruiting inquiring about continued interest in employment and if so to plan on being in class by the end of 2009. (I apologize for the atrocious sentence there)

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

 

[lookin4better]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Awesome! Thanks for the laugh!

My guess mid to late 2010 for hiring.... unless a UAL merger happens ( which I am NOT hoping for-- its just a possibility ) , then it will be closer to 2020.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

I knew the girl talking to Ferris on the school phone. Small bit part in the movie. Kristin Graziano was her name.

 

[skywdriver]

There will be no recalls this year. There will be no hiring this year. CAL does not have a "pool." There are plenty of rumors but there is nothing that would indicate any growth in 09. No growth means no recalls and no hiring. 2010 may be very different but I suspect thing will continue at present for some time.

Who knows when the hiring will start again, but CAL absolutely does have a pool, and they were sent letters, I think back in December. I am sure whatever plans they had back then have been thrown in the garbage, but the whole point of this post was to prove or disprove whether those letters were real. They were, I have seen the content of the letter, and I have also spoken to the union about them. Those letter mean absolutely nothing now. There are a lot of rumors about guys jumping ship in the fall, but rumors are rumors.

 

[whatitdoing?]

Been hearing that a lot of Captains will be bailing this fall....guessing A fund issues.

 

[Captain X]

Been hearing that a lot of Captains will be bailing this fall....guessing A fund issues.

I've heard the same. Plus I guess some are hitting the magic age of 62.

 

[skywdriver]

they would be smart to, although not as smart as the guys that already left. with interest rates at a low not seen in years and years, their lump sum payments will be a lot higher. that would be the only way they would start recalls in the fall.

 

[cal73cap]

Heard from training about 100 more furloughs after the summer.

 

[Homer Jay]

Heard from training about 100 more furloughs after the summer.

I don't buy it. I don't trust anyone in that building.

 

[SFR]

I heard 100 non furloughs........

 

[eaglesview]

It's all up in the air until after the merger.

 

[CAL EWR B737]

2009 net loss of aircraft. No recall for summer flying. Can't imagine they will need to up the staffing for winter flying. Unless the retiring starts up can't see it happening.

Ok rumor control.

As the Chairman of LEC 170 and the Captain Representative for Continental in Newark, I can say the following:

To the best of my knowledge letters were mailed a few months ago to some 40 or so pilots placed in a hiring pool when we stopped hiring last time. They were told to expect fall class dates.

As of today it is still my personal opinion based on all the information I know that I still believe our furloughed pilots will be recalled in the late Summer early Fall time frame with some new hires to follow.

Fraternally,

Jayson Baron
CAL 170 Chairman
CAL EWR CA Representative
[email protected]

 

[twad]

Good news

Hey Jayson,

Good to hear that. We need those guys back. I can't figure out why they would be brought back after summer though. Seems like before summer would be more logical.

On a different note, I flew with a Captain last week that had nothing but bad to say. Said that we could have a TA in 15 minutes if we would just extend POS 02! Made me sick! Keep up the good work! We are counting on you to stand tall and not be turned into a management sympathizer(which I know would never happen).