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The Q-400 is a capable aircraft, but it does not have the range and speed of an E-175. The E-175 can basically do everything a classic 737 can with 78-88 seats. The Q-400 is relegated to short hops out of hub airports. This fact will seriously limit its growth within a fleet. There is a huge difference between giving up scope to 70 seats on a turboprop vs. on a jet.


CAL doesnt use the ERJs and 737's only on long routes though. So where as you are right it doesnt have the range a 175 does but it doesnt need to for the route structure at cal. I am just saying hopefully they cap those things.
 
Block time increase within 500NM on Q400 is negligible, it almost climbs and cruises like jet, and it has much lower operating cost per seat. I fully expect Continental to order some more, cutting down the number of RJs in EWR and also in why not in IAH as well. However, considering the current fuel economics, what's concerning is the number of accelerated B735s retirement and the chances of their short routes being replaced by the Q400s.
 
Continental's a great company, but their future plans are subject to change, as with all airlines.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/5621590.html

March 14, 2008, 10:50PM
Continental warns of 'tough decisions'
As fares rise again, CEO says other steps may be required

By BILL HENSEL JR.
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle

Continental Airlines CEO Larry Kellner strongly hinted Friday that some big changes in the way the airline is operating may have to be made soon if high oil prices persist.
Airlines for months have been raising fares to try to offset the high prices. Another increase of as much as $50 on round-trip tickets was put in place by United Airlines and matched Friday by Continental.
But more may have to be done, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Continental said Friday.
Kellner told employees in a taped message that at today's fuel prices, the carrier will pay about $1.5 billion more for fuel in 2008 than it did last year.
"We can absorb these extraordinary high fuel prices for a little while," maybe a few months, Kellner said. "But if these prices continue, we will have to make some tough decisions to make sure the size of our network is right for a world with fuel at such astronomical rates."
At least one other airline signaled Friday that changes may be on the way because of high oil prices. At Atlanta-based Delta Airlines, Chief Executive Richard Anderson told employees it will be rolling out a comprehensive plan next week.
That carrier already has made some cuts domestically, he noted.
"Do everything you can to preserve fuel," Anderson told the Delta workers in his own taped message.
Kellner told employees the carrier would not ask for more cuts and concessions, as it did a few years ago.
However, "we'll all have to work together to increase revenues and decrease costs," if oil remains high.
Whatever steps may be taken, Continental pilots, who rallied this week in New York City to draw attention to their contract negotiations with management, will make sure their interests are protected, spokesman Mark Adams said Friday.
"This was the theme of our rally," Adams said. "Fuel costs what fuel costs and pilots cost what pilots cost and sometime you have to raise the fare for both."
Friday's fare increase by United and matched by Continental had not been matched by other big carriers, but Rick Seaney of FareCompare.com said he didn't find that surprising.
"Airlines along with consumers are probably absorbing the impact of this jolt and it may take them a few days to decide on proper levels of matching," Seaney said in a report. "Most likely they will match."
The $50 hike was only for the longest flights, with the increases for shorter trips starting at $4 a round-trip, he said.
To stay in place, fare increases need all major airlines to participate. If only one chooses not to raise prices, the attempt usually collapses.
Airlines have raised fares at least six times in the past three months as oil and fuel prices have continued to rise. The price for a barrel of West Texas crude closed at more than $110 a barrel Friday.

I'm sure it's purely coincidence that Kellner decided to sit down with the Houston Chronicle the day after the Wall Street Rally. Their industrial psychology game plan has not changed.
 
Yes I was talking about the situation at other majors... and trying to figure out what was going on at CAL. Thanks for the input guys.
 
Why is it when people bring up 70 seat jets the major airline being talked about needs to give up scope? Is there a rule that all Embraer equipment is banned from flying at the majors?
I hope that if this does come up at CAL in the future, those airplanes are put on the CAL list and flown by CAL pilots only.
I still believe that all jets should have been put at the major level regardless of how many seats they have.
 
I hope that if this does come up at CAL in the future, those airplanes are put on the CAL list and flown by CAL pilots only.

Right on. All flying with CAL colors done by CAL pilots. It's simple. I don't care if its a turboprop or a jet. Any airplane flying CAL routes without a CAL pilot at the controls is bad news.

Never give up scope. We need to tighten ours even further so that all CAL flying will eventually be done by CAL pilots only.
 
Waterskier,

Surely you're smart enough to know that none of us on FI have an accurate crystal ball. Just hope for the best and get your number at CAL as soon as you can. Yes, hiring ALWAYS stops during the summer at CAL and everyone gets more flying than they would like (instructors must come out of the school house to cover some line flying). If you can get in for one of the last few classes before the hiring stops, great, but you'll be reserve all summer (not in IAH: wife and son will not be happy with you). If you can get in one of the first few classes in the fall, all the better, in that you will most likely hold a line very quickly (in EWR or reserve in IAH) and you'll be amazed how quickly the numbers below you start adding up. Good luck, we look forward to having you here.

-Blucher
 
On the bright side "Not", we have 14 over 60 guys from the training dept. returning to the line to fly pax. So 14 less CA slots to move up into.

I guess ALPA lawyers are saying they are just like the FedEx F/E's.
 
On the bright side "Not", we have 14 over 60 guys from the training dept. returning to the line to fly pax. So 14 less CA slots to move up into.

I guess ALPA lawyers are saying they are just like the FedEx F/E's.
I highly doubt the accuracy of this. That would be a blatant violation of the law.
 
I highly doubt the accuracy of this. That would be a blatant violation of the law.

It is 100% accurate, it is based on an interpretation from the FAA. They have classified the over sixty training pilots as "required crewmembers" apparently because they have been giving checkrides. The EWR CP has given exactly ONE checkride since he turned sixty, to the Director of Flight Operations, and he just flew a revenue flight.
 
It is unfortunately true. Another win for Prater. One step closer to all those under age 65 coming back with seniority.
 
I highly doubt the accuracy of this. That would be a blatant violation of the law.

Your right, I'm just "bull$hiting" you because I want to start something. "Duh"!

Look, they are reporting that these over 60 CA's did not take lump sum retirement in hopes that someday the law would change. Our company, and union allowed them to keep their seniority numbers. So go ahead and keep your head buried in the sand, and go about your happy little life.

If this is turns out not to be true as reported on our bulletin board, I'll be glad to recant. Other wise if you have knowledge of what is happening on our list please keep us updated.
 
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