I know. My point was are the interviewers checking to see if they have a ton of single pilot time, or just throwing out the resume without checking?Standby 1 said:Read my post again...did I not note the single pilot exception???
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I know. My point was are the interviewers checking to see if they have a ton of single pilot time, or just throwing out the resume without checking?Standby 1 said:Read my post again...did I not note the single pilot exception???
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gkrangers said:I know. My point was are the interviewers checking to see if they have a ton of single pilot time, or just throwing out the resume without checking?
atlcrashpad said:What raises eyebrows is a guy with 5000 hr TT and 4950 hr PIC. It's BS. Very rarely does a guy get his ratings in minimum times. Dual received should be logged as dual not PIC. If your a CFI, then PIC when instructing.
minitour said:The regs don't have to say that I have to act as PIC when I'm giving instruction. Only that I can log PIC when I'm giving instruction.
Now, is most of my time as the CFI time acting and logging PIC time? Sure...I do lots of private pilot students. But what about instrument students? If we're only in simulated conditions with the student under the hood, I don't have to act as the PIC. Perfectly legal for him/her to log that time as 1.1 PIC as well as 61.51 "sole manipulator" PIC. How about commercial students before they transition to the complex airplane or after their endorsement? They can certainly act as PIC in those cases.
What I don't understand is why everyone makes a fuss about this stuff.
Here's my take on it...if there's a company out there that wants to second guess legally logged time, do I really want to work there? If they have a problem with legally logged flight time (as silly as that is), what other regs do they have a problem with? "MX issue...CND; Duty time...what's that?" Not saying that happens, but that would raise red flags for me...and afterall, it's my life on the line.
Don't take me wrong, I'm sure that's the HR/interviewers job to second guess it, but if I have a knowledge of my ops and the regs and can explain how it's legally loggable, I don't understand the problem.
That's my take on it anywho.
-mini
If a CFI could not log PIC, what's the point of being a CFI?? I don't think there would be any! That's the traditional path of building time, get you CFI and instruct.
If you don't ACT as PIC you cannot LOG PIC. You're arguement sounds like you're reading what you want out of the reg's.
...and if an FAA interviewer said to me "if you don't ACT as PIC you cannot LOG PIC", I'd say "thanks but no thanks" and be on my way.atlcrashpad said:Minitour,
If you don't ACT as PIC you cannot LOG PIC. You're arguement sounds like you're reading what you want out of the reg's. As far as not wanting to "work for someone who scrutinizes your times" Wake up and smell the coffee. Every employer will look your qualifications and times over. The FAA will too if they catch you (very unlikely).
. What I said wasatlcrashpad said:"work for someone who scrutinizes your times"
. As I said, to me that raises red flags. What other regulations do they not believe in? They aren't any gray(ey?) areas in the regs...it's all black and white.minitour said:if there's a company out there that wants to second guess legally logged time, do I really want to work there?
...and it's true. See my last post.atlcrashpad said:Avbug and Minitour,
I'm not the one who originally stated "The regs don't have to say that I have to act as PIC when I'm giving instruction. Only that I can log PIC when I'm giving instruction." Minitour said that. see thread #73
Oops on my part..."FAA" slipped in there inadvertantly. I really meant just "interviewer". But if an inspector tried to tell me that the regs said I have to act as PIC to log PIC, I'd want to talk to another inspector...perhaps a judge?"...and if an FAA interviewer said to me "if you don't ACT as PIC you cannot LOG PIC", I'd say "thanks but no thanks" and be on my way." (thread #77) Minitour if an FAA guy says that is the reg's then you are WRONG to ignore him.
See 61.51 Pilot Logbooks"Not only is that person 100% incorrect, but there's no way to convince them either." Minitour, see above
But 121 isn't the regulations on logging flight time. 121 is an operating rules section..."Whether you have a great 121 gig or not is irrelevant. You're still bound to the regs like the rest of us that aren't in the 121 world." (thread #77) My 121 job is PIC when I sign for the flight. My name will appear on the flight dispatch release. I have flown SIC in an aircraft that I have a type in. Ever seen two Captains flying in the same aircraft? Who ever signs for the flight is PIC in 121 ops.