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ATL, I understand what you're saying on both parts.

1.) I have about 60 hours difference between TT and PIC. (60hrs. bewteen PPC and initail ME), I'm currently finishing up my MEI and have logged the last 15 hours as PIC, as well as my instructor has logged those hours as PIC.

I have logged ever minute after my PPC as PIC, except for the initial ME, however my MEI instructor came from a school that didn't allow them to log PIC as long as there was an instructor onboard so he doesn't have a lot of PIC. At least he didn't when he finished his CFI, of course he's got plently now.

2.) Resume BS is part of every career, the BS works its way out quick.
 
atlcrashpad said:
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Originally Posted by ePilot22
A CFI doesn't have to touch the controls, they just have to act as a flight instructor to log PIC time. A rated pilot can log all time as PIC as well. Read ALL of 61.51.


EPilot22,

Read my third post. I posted the exception for instructors.

Sorry, you did. You also specificed 121 and/or 135. But again I have seen where people don't think a rated pilot can't log PIC with an instructor onboard.

:0
 
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DC8,

I was not trying to flam bait or argue with anyone. I was trying to help out guys with the way they may present their resumes. I'm not doubting their flying skills. I have no say so in the hiring dept either. I have seen (Qualified) guys turned down becausing their times looked questionable. I was point out a few resumes I saw posted that fit that type of profile. If a guy get lucky and jumps right into a PIC gig, great.
 
Nice Log Book Time

I saw that on the General Interview Board earlier today. At 400 TT he went right into twin time and never touched a single again? After 300 hrs of nothing but multi, he then logged 800 hrs of turboprop time?:eek: What! And he's asking for a job. Hook me up with what you had!:pimp:
 
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EPilot22,

Yes B.S. is part of every job and everyday life. I was trying to help out guys that might get passed over if times are questioned for whatever reason. Times are tough getting a 121 or 135 or heck even a 91 job. I've got my job, but I've been there looking for one, wondering why I cannot get a call back.

The late 80's early 90's were tough. There was no one to pass along info for me. I worked as a Police Officer for a while until the mass hiring (Yes, Kit Darby) of the late 90's.
 
Hey, nothing like that twice a year flight review!

"I doubt that after your PPL was issued and you took more training or Bi annuals that you held the controls 100% of the time. The CFI had to take the controls for at least a demo." Quote from atl

Dude, it WAS biennial, which means once every two years, now it's just a flight review because of people like you!
 
80's hiring

I forgot, the late 80's there was hiring of low time pilots. Cargo, low level, overwater, night flights from Latin America. High paying too. lol
 
I understand!

ATL,

I know what you mean. I like to play the safe side of logging time. I know someone that logs FTD time as TT, explain that on an interview. Or a C172XP as high performance. Sure with it being derated to 195 HP, another tough one to explain.

Anyway, thanks for pointing it out. You're right, strange things on one's resume is just one more reason to be passed up and never given a chance to explain.
 
MTpilot said:
"I doubt that after your PPL was issued and you took more training or Bi annuals that you held the controls 100% of the time. The CFI had to take the controls for at least a demo." Quote from atl

Dude, it WAS biennial, which means once every two years, now it's just a flight review because of people like you!

MT,

You're right my spelling was wrong and implies twice a year not once every two years. It has been a long time since my last Biennial , because I take Proficiency Checks, Line Oriented Flight Training (LOFT) and Annual Proficiency and Readiness Test (APART) at least once a year. The last one listed is a military check ride.

How is it my fault that the FAA changed the name?
 
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Logging both dual received and PIC at the same time is so common that I'm surprised that anyone would look twice at it.

Some schools THINK that they can tell you what you can and can't log, but they are wrong. Do your columns in pencil and go back after you leave and fill in your RIGHTFUL pic time.
 
1.2....opps...I mean 2.1

100LL... Again! said:
Do your columns in pencil and go back after you leave and fill in your RIGHTFUL pic time.

Whiteout! Nobody will ever know!(little winking face here)
 
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100LL... Again! said:
Logging both dual received and PIC at the same time is so common that I'm surprised that anyone would look twice at it.

Some schools THINK that they can tell you what you can and can't log, but they are wrong. Do your columns in pencil and go back after you leave and fill in your RIGHTFUL pic time.

I give up... F*ck it, write down what you want. In fact use a FAT pencil to do your times. It's your log book.
 
ePilot22 said:
Whiteout! Nobody will ever know!(little winking face here)
I knew an airline bound jump pilot with a log book full of green "white out" corrections. WTFO?

And what's this crap about saying who can and who can't reply to the post, it's in the general section of the forum. Wouldn't the regional or major or fars section be the best place to limit the responders to airline applicants?
 
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FN FAL said:
I knew an airline bound jump pilot with a log book full of green "white out" corrections. WTFO?

And what's this crap about saying who can and who can't reply to the post, it's in the general section of the forum. Wouldn't the regional or major or fars section be the best place to limit the responders to airline applicants?

FN FAL,

I must have missed the can and can't reply to the post. Who posted that? There was so much coming at me, I was ducking most of the time...lol
 
Rifles

FN FAL,

I assume you like rifles. I picked up an RPK in Northern Iraq while I was there. Kicka$$ weapon, too bad I had to pass it along to our replacement unit when we were leaving. :( Had an AK w/folding stock also. Carried an M-4 and M-9 while I was flying. Always like the FN though never had one.
 
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atlcrashpad said:
FN FAL,

I assume you like rifles. I picked up an RPK in Northern Iraq while I was there. Kicka$$ weapon, too bad I had to pass it along to our replacement unit when we were leaving. :( Had an AK w/folding stock also. Carried an M-4 and M-9 while I was flying. Always like the FN though never had one.
I think in sandy conditions that an AK type product would probably be more reliable. I've got a Yugo M-92 Krink variant that looks like would work well even if it was ignored for years and pulled out of sand pit.

FN's? I got a Pre-89 SAR 48 built on an Embel metric reciever, it's great. I wish it was a FAL, they are bringing in 4,000 bucks nowdays...even in well worn condition, they can bring at least 3,000.
 
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atlcrashpad said:
I give up... F*ck it, write down what you want. In fact use a FAT pencil to do your times. It's your log book.
What was your point again? That if its dual the student shouldn't be logging PIC (even if they are rated in class and category)?

I have 185 PIC, 210TT.

I had 25 hours of Dual Recieved (non PIC) for my PPL training.

I now have 74 hours of Dual...PPL and IA...but all the instrument was also logged as PIC.

I figure another 25-30 hours of dual for the commercial single, then multi addon...take both rides at 250 hours. Figure 10 dual for the multi, and thats non pic, since I'm not licensed.

So I'll have a 35 hour spread between PIC and TT...then some more CFI dual...which will also be logged as PIC on my part. So my spread should stay at ~35 hours.

If I start instructing after that, that'll all be PIC, too...

Sounds reasonable to me...

Edit: I would say more like 40 hours of a spread, with that extra 5 hours coming from a complex aircraft. But I'll pickup that 10 hours of complex time in the twin, which was already accounted for. So 35 it stays..
 
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Forget it, I was trying to point out that there might be some issues later down the road for resumes that appear to be questionable. Obviously I've struck a nerve with a lot of you guys. I've got my 121 job.

I was just trying to pass along some advice. Something that was not offered to me when I was a 200+ hr struggling pilot looking for a full time flying gig. Besides the FAA no longer requires you to get your log book validated by them anymore before your ATP. Log what you want.
 
atlcrashpad said:
Forget it, I was trying to point out that there might be some issues later down the road for resumes that appear to be questionable. Obviously I've struck a nerve with a lot of you guys. I've got my 121 job.

I was just trying to pass along some advice. Something that was not offered to me when I was a 200+ hr struggling pilot looking for a full time flying gig. Besides the FAA no longer requires you to get your log book validated by them anymore before your ATP. Log what you want.

I appreciate the intent to help, as I'm sure others in my position do, but I'm still don't see what's fishy about your example in the first post. Others showed how if someone logged their time as per 61.51, it is completely reasonable for someone to have that little non-PIC time.
 

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