Brazil Mid-Air Survivor

[scrub]

Nobody seems to get it... FL370 is an *eastbound* altitude under both RVSM and non-RVSM rules. So what were they doing there?

those rules don't apply in Florida!!!!

 

[Weasil]

those rules don't apply in Florida!!!!

what has that got to do with Brazil?

 

[Irishav8r]

Nobody seems to get it... FL370 is an *eastbound* altitude under both RVSM and non-RVSM rules. So what were they doing there?

Why does this always start?

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Nobody seems to get it... FL370 is an *eastbound* altitude under both RVSM and non-RVSM rules. So what were they doing there?

I got it Scuba Steve and Im ure others did as well. Just didnt feel like posting it.

Jeff?

 

[CRACKHEAD]

Tcas

My question would be about the TCAS. Wouldn't it of gone off on both planes, advicing both aircraft crews about the others traffic?? You know, "TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, PULL UP, PULL UP!!!!"
Now I know the EMB has all the new stuff and probably draws out the type of aircraft fast approaching. Anyways, just a thought.

 

[Benhuntn]

what are the odds that 4 stupid pilots could be in the same airspace at the same time and same place?

 

[ackattacker]

Why does this always start?

My post was not meant as an attack on the crew of the Legacy. There may be a perfectly legit reason for them to be at FL370, such as a block altitude as someone posted. We don't know all the facts yet (and probably won't for a long while.) The cause of this accident could be many things including ATC error.

Still, I found it odd that no one else seemed to find this odd. It is an "unusual" altitude for a westbound plane to be on.

As an aside, I remember reading somewhere an article about how in some ways modern navigation technology (GPS etc) introduces it's own dangers, because navigation is now so accurate that aircraft are almost always exactly on the center of an airway. The old system of VOR's and NDB's was kind of sloppy, so that it was likely that if someone screwed up and two aircraft ended up opposite direction they were unlikely to hit.

 

[Gummo]

what are the odds that 4 stupid pilots could be in the same airspace at the same time and same place?

Maybe I misunderstood your point, but that seems like a ugly thing to say with 155 people dead out in the jungle and no conclusive evidence of what happened. I envy you your error free flying career, and the certitude with which you judge others.

 

[Ben Franklin]

what are the odds that 4 stupid pilots could be in the same airspace at the same time and same place?

Glad you've got it figured out before the investigation is complete!







Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Benhuntn]

thanks

 

[Falconjet]

Murf: you having a bad day, or maybe left yourself logged on somewhere?

Those posts don't sound like your usual self.

Imagine if somebody had said something similar about 2 pilots at MDW, you'd be pretty indignant I'd bet.

FJ

 

[ALGFLYR]

Murf: you having a bad day, or maybe left yourself logged on somewhere?

Those posts don't sound like your usual self.

Imagine if somebody had said something similar about 2 pilots at MDW, you'd be pretty indignant I'd bet.

FJ

I didn't take his quote to leads us to believe these were stupid pilots. If he meant it that way, he's a jerk.

What I took from his comment was that these were most likely very competent pilots that knew what they were doing. Someone else suggested they were at the wrong altitude for direction of flight. I think this was in response to that. I could be wrong though...

 

[Benhuntn]

ALGFLYR Thanks for the support but I was being a jerk. S. America is the 2nd most dangerous continent to fly on, not counting Antartica. You have to be on your "A" game at all times. Someone wasn't clearing either with their eyes or on the radios. No TCAS I am assuming means you have to be vigilant. I may have been harsh but I have said so now I can't take it back.

 

[AA717driver]

I submit the Bay of Bengal for the third most dangerous place... TC

 

[barnyard]

Anyways, I thought that was an amazing article.