Boeing Unveils Its Jumbo Killer

[JetMonkey]

This is Boeing's last chance to....

GET RID OF THE FREAKIN YOKE!!!

 

[uba757]

The YOKE on the B777 works just fine!

 

[BornAgainPagan]

This is Boeing's last chance to....

GET RID OF THE FREAKIN YOKE!!!

Are the meals that important to you?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Yes. Yokes are an anachronistic appeal to a bygone era. But the old-timers seem to like them.

 

[Green]

I think the yoke would have saved Air France 447. The FO was holding full back side stick all the way until impact. The other FO in the left seat and the CA back from the bunk had no idea he was holding full aft until just prior to impact. When the CA realized what he was doing he said "no, no, no." If the 330 had a yoke then the other pilot would have seen the FO with the yoke in his gut and might have been clued into the fact that they were in a deep stall. Any thoughts?

 

[bri5150]

Easy fix. Force feedback on the stick. If one is moved, a motor moves the other one.

 

[ackattacker]

Pay and QOL?

 

[jws717]

I think the yoke would have saved Air France 447. The FO was holding full back side stick all the way until impact. The other FO in the left seat and the CA back from the bunk had no idea he was holding full aft until just prior to impact. When the CA realized what he was doing he said "no, no, no." If the 330 had a yoke then the other pilot would have seen the FO with the yoke in his gut and might have been clued into the fact that they were in a deep stall. Any thoughts?

Power at idle for 30 mins, and you hit the ocean no matter what you do with the stick. (or yoke)

 

[ackattacker]

Power at idle for 30 mins, and you hit the ocean no matter what you do with the stick. (or yoke)

That might be true, except in the AF case the power was at TOGA the whole time so I'm not sure what your point is. What the IRO did with the stick was very relevant in that case.

This whole conversation is utterly pointless. We don't get any input. The 777X is still a 777 at heart and it's going to have a yoke and a common type rating. Period, end of story. All I want to know is when I can bid it and how much does it pay.

 

[dicko]

Power at idle for 30 mins, and you hit the ocean no matter what you do with the stick. (or yoke)

Yes, thirty minutes is a long time. On a bad day, I can't even hold my breath for that long.

The power setting was 100% or TOGA for almost the entire accident sequence. What they did "with the stick" really did matter, since that's what killed everybody on board. The accident sequence was around four minutes.

Other than that, great post.

 

[Father Jack]

Boeing does not use the term "yoke."
Source? 777 FCTM.

 

[Tomct]

Boeing will NEVER get rid of the yoke! That would be an admission that Airbus was right and THAT aint going to happen! I'll take the 777 all day long WITH a yoke.

 

[ron burgundy]

FL was gonna be the launch customer...The "parent" company decided to PAY Delta to take them.

 

[Turtle21]

Boeing will NEVER get rid of the yoke! That would be an admission that Airbus was right and THAT aint going to happen! I'll take the 777 all day long WITH a yoke.

Sadly Boeing has a yoke. Sadly AB has a stick that moves a-synchronously with the control surfaces of the aircraft and a-synchronously with the other stick. Both companies have engineers that are F-ing idiots. An eighth grader could combine the good points of both... But at least Holder and Obama could never get hired to design an airplane.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Sadly Boeing has a yoke. Sadly AB has a stick that moves a-synchronously with the control surfaces of the aircraft and a-synchronously with the other stick. Both companies have engineers that are F-ing idiots. An eighth grader could combine the good points of both... But at least Holder and Obama could never get hired to design an airplane.

Hunh?!?!?



So you're saying a committee of Tea Party Republicans and liberal Republicans would do better?!?!

Yeahhhh.

 

[Tomct]

Hunh?!?!?



So you're saying a committee of Tea Party Republicans and liberal Republicans would do better?!?!

Yeahhhh.

A Monkey SCREWING a Football would do a better job than Barry! I'll take the Tea Party (who is FOR the Constitution and our Rights) versus Barry and his new Third Reich!

 

[The Gimp]

I've never heard of a case of a wingfold hinge failure on a modern fighter. We have literally thousands of F-18's that have upwards of 7.5 G's cycled over and over again for over 8000 hours with no problems. It's not really that cosmic.

Wrong. Its happened.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

A Monkey SCREWING a Football would do a better job than Barry! I'll take the Tea Party (who is FOR the Constitution and our Rights) versus Barry and his new Third Reich!

New Third Reich. . . New. Third. Reich. Hmmm.

So . . . it's the Fourth Reich?

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

A Monkey SCREWING a Football would do a better job than Barry! I'll take the Tea Party (who is FOR the Constitution and our Rights) versus Barry and his new Third Reich!

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[ackattacker]

They're talking about folding wing tips, not folding wings. Just the last 10 feet of each wing.

I'm guessing they'll be plenty strong, but even with a failure you're not going to be uncontrollable.