Boeing to Supply 767's for DHL US Operations

[ABXbooger]

Why would they replace the A300's with 767-300's? Not exactly an apple to apple thing? If the buses were running international now, I would think that, but they aren't and never have. So replacing the buses with the 767-200's and then using the 767-300's for international, regardless of who flys them.

I do think ABX has the inside track on these planes, though. As previously stated, basically all they have to do is show up and we could fly them, spares, training, MX, etc all turnkey. But, Joe is pulling planes away from DHL to go to Japan, they (DHL) might take that as a slap...

 

[abxdx]

But, Joe is pulling planes away from DHL to go to Japan, they (DHL) might take that as a slap...

I do not think Hete is pulling away any planes from DHL, the new ones coming online will go to Japan. We are not forfitting any of our flying for DHL to do this contract...

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

Why would they replace the A300's with 767-300's? Not exactly an apple to apple thing? If the buses were running international now, I would think that, but they aren't and never have. So replacing the buses with the 767-200's and then using the 767-300's for international, regardless of who flys them.

You're right, 767-300's aren't a direct replacement for anything in DHL's domestic service except maybe the DC-8, and they're not utilizing those to any great extent. The -300's will be utilized overseas, flown by whichever ACMI operation submits the lowest bid. Maybe "Air Chihuahua" or somebody. Just because DHL can no longer employ illegals in the sort doesn't mean they couldn't use them to fly their planes. What happens in Kazakhstan stays in Kazakhstan, know what I mean?

I do think ABX has the inside track on these planes, though. As previously stated, basically all they have to do is show up and we could fly them, spares, training, MX, etc all turnkey. But, Joe is pulling planes away from DHL to go to Japan, they (DHL) might take that as a slap...

Nobody reading this post in their native language has an inside track on these planes. The closest any of us will get to them is when we're riding the jumpseat, if that's even possible. Assuming the reported value of the contract (150 mil per unit) is correct, it's fair to assume that a comprehensive spares and training package is included with the deal. Plus, they're new airplanes, and Boeings at that. After a few months shakin' 'em down, they'll be pretty reliable birds for the next 15 or 20 years.

Another thought just occured. Doesn't UPS have a bunch of 767-300's on order? Now THAT would imply some commonality between fleets, in the event that some sort of partnership with them were to be reached in the future. See my above post...

 

[Classicdriver]

Not sure how this will mix in, but DHL has indicated to Atlas/Polar that they will be handling all the trans-ocean flying at some point. Atlas is interested in sharing and flying smaller planes with the right deal? Just another thought. I have no inside info.

 

[abxaviator]

Dan and his alliance theories are beginning to make sense (thanks barkeep). I bet these get painted brown for real commonality.

 

[abxdx]

Not sure how this will mix in, but DHL has indicated to Atlas/Polar that they will be handling all the trans-ocean flying at some point. Atlas is interested in sharing and flying smaller planes with the right deal? Just another thought. I have no inside info.

Where did you read or hear that DHL had indicated this? And how do you know what Atlas is interested in?

 

[abxdx]

You're right, 767-300's aren't a direct replacement for anything in DHL's domestic service except maybe the DC-8,

Are you off your rocker, how could you possibly think that a 767-300 would be a direct replacement for the FLYING Semi........................

 

[Classicdriver]

Where did you read or hear that DHL had indicated this? And how do you know what Atlas is interested in?

From meetings our Union MEC has had with the DLH management and union folks in Germany. Also Atlas has said many times that they are interested in a smaller plane if it was the right situation. In fact, they just mentioned it again in their quarterly report conferance call on Thursday. Also they said in that same call, that the current deal with DHL may be just the beginning.

 

[AV80R]

to fly in the U.S.???

Absolutely! Isn’t that what Open Sky agreement was all about?

After all, doesn’t FedEx and UPS fly within Europe?

Note, I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying people wishing for Open Sky deal need to be careful what they’re wishing for, it might bite them.

 

[tired_pilot]

Rumor that Express.net is in the running the operate the 767's. Rumor and rumor only but from reliable source.