Big Unions: Introduce an Act the Would Release Aviation from The Railway Labor Act

[Flopgut]

NOt sure about ALPA pilot groups in the past (PAA for example) but I would argue, despite set backs (we all have them, do we not?), that the UAL ALPA pilots have done more for the profession than others...

Did you know that if you have a hire date before 1974 you have re-hiring protections at another airline? It's a protection that was part of the RLA. 1974 is the cutoff per the efforts of UAL ALPA. (They didn't want to end up forced to hire any of the FAL guys after throwing them under the bus)

UAL ALPA has done a lot. They've also taken a lot.

Let's get the good parts of the RLA back. Or let's get out of it!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Did you know that if you have a hire date before 1974 you have re-hiring protections at another airline? It's a protection that was part of the RLA. 1974 is the cutoff per the efforts of UAL ALPA. (They didn't want to end up forced to hire any of the FAL guys after throwing them under the bus)

UAL ALPA has done a lot. They've also taken a lot.

Let's get the good parts of the RLA back. Or let's get out of it!

Agreed... the UAL guys have been tools at times... haven't we all?


When you say "let's".... what you mean or rather...how do you mean?

 

[Flopgut]

I suppose I mean ALPA. With an end result being an entire overhaul of pilot relationship to the RLA.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I suppose I mean ALPA. With an end result being an entire overhaul of pilot relationship to the RLA.

Would this help?....


Increase ALPA-PAC participation percentags from a dismal 14% to even 25%?

A grassroots effort by a group of pilots not necessarily associated with ALPA or unions? How about www.pilotsforRLA.org ???

Pilots as Americans actually voting in congressional elections (the participation rate is pathetically low) for candidates that support pilot favored RLA change?

 

[Flopgut]

Rez: Sending you a PM.

 

[jmreii]

These days the only one that goes down with the ship, is the employee, not the management team. Releasing aviation from the railway act would give some crafty management team the incentive they want. That is to replace(fire) and rebuild(hire) new employees no matter how long it takes. The mad professor gets away while the experiment goes up in smoke.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

These days the only one that goes down with the ship, is the employee, not the management team. Releasing aviation from the railway act would give some crafty management team the incentive they want. That is to replace(fire) and rebuild(hire) new employees no matter how long it takes. The mad professor gets away while the experiment goes up in smoke.

Well, apathy and the "always been that way" attitude isn't helping anything for the better. Why assume that management is craftier...Brainstorm (with union lawyers) for any potential loopholes and IRON CLAD language. It CAN be done...there just has to be a large enough motivated group to make it happen.
Be craftier. (Someone like Occam would seem ideal to oversee the construction of such language...where has be been BTW?)

 

[saabservant]

the alpa lawyers are curiously silent...is the status quo good for them?
We need a little civil disobedience, against the RLA. We are not indentured servants, unless our union goes along with it...

 

[stlflyguy]

A clock needs to be put on the mediation process. Instead of the mediator being judge and jury as to when an impasse has been reached, put a 24 month clock on the negotiating process. 24 months from date of expiration of the previous contract both parties are released to self-help unless an agreement has been reached.

Seems easy enough. Why not implement that instead of trying to swat flies with a hammer?

stlflyguy

 

[lionflyer]

A clock needs to be put on the mediation process. Instead of the mediator being judge and jury as to when an impasse has been reached, put a 24 month clock on the negotiating process. 24 months from date of expiration of the previous contract both parties are released to self-help unless an agreement has been reached.

Seems easy enough. Why not implement that instead of trying to swat flies with a hammer?

stlflyguy

Agreed! That's a very simple solution that shouldn't take up too much paper and would definitely put a fire under managements A$$...by the 23rd month give or take.