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Yes and No. If the company that was purchased is viable than yes you have to merge. If the company was purchased and went out of business than no in the case of Republic bought Midwest:


Your meeting was for the intent of Discovery.

Good Luck!

Your understanding of the McCaskill as it relates to mergers and acquisitions is a little lacking.

Ask an AirTran pilot if McCaskill was used, or if the parties involved agreed to a mutually agreed upon list. The how and why AT/SW list isn't important, the FACT that McCaskill WASN'T enforced was.
 
"(2) Covered air carrier. - The term 'covered air carrier'
means an air carrier that is involved in a covered transaction.
"(3) Covered employee. - The term 'covered employee' means an
employee who -
"(A) is not a temporary employee; and
"(B) is a member of a craft or class that is subject to the
Railway Labor Act (45 U.S.C. 151 et seq.).
"(4) Covered transaction. - The term 'covered transaction'
means -
"(A) a transaction for the combination of multiple air
carriers into a single air carrier; and which
"(B) involves the transfer of ownership or control of -
"(i) 50 percent or more of the equity securities (as
defined in section 101 of title 11, United States Code) of an
air carrier; or
"(ii) 50 percent or more (by value) of the assets of the
air carrier.

Hi Jon, Please re-read the definitions. You fall into a class as a pilot. You are a "Covered Employee", employed by a "Covered Carrier", that conducted a "Covered Transaction", that bought another "Covered Carrier", that has "Covered Employees" of the same craft and class as you.

You Must Merge Under McCaskill Bond.

Good Luck!
 
Your understanding of the McCaskill as it relates to mergers and acquisitions is a little lacking.

Ask an AirTran pilot if McCaskill was used, or if the parties involved agreed to a mutually agreed upon list. The how and why AT/SW list isn't important, the FACT that McCaskill WASN'T enforced was.

You are half right. McCaskill Bond did not have to be enforced because both groups decided on a list and voted on it. Right now the ALPA has filed a complaint to SWAPA about the fairness of the list due to the 717s leaving for Delta.
 
You Must Merge Under McCaskill Bond.

Good Luck!

What part of unless the parties agreeing something then McCaskill doesn't have to be enforced are you not understanding?

When SKW tried to buy XJT in 2008 they wanted to fire ALL XJT people and rehire them at the bottom. They could have as McCaskill wasn't in effect at that time.

If they tried that now WITHOUT even trying to negotiate/agree upon an SLI, THEN it would go to McCaskill.
 
What part of unless the parties agreeing something then McCaskill doesn't have to be enforced are you not understanding?

When SKW tried to buy XJT in 2008 they wanted to fire ALL XJT people and rehire them at the bottom. They could have as McCaskill wasn't in effect at that time.

If they tried that now WITHOUT even trying to negotiate/agree upon an SLI, THEN it would go to McCaskill.
Yeah, I just said that.

Thanks!

Good Luck!
 
Which is EXACTLY how I replied to you in the FIRST place yet you wanted to disagree. Amazing

No you still don't understand.

I was first talking about the SkyWest Holdings issue. Then you brought up the Airtran/SWA issue.

Now what issue do you want to talk about?
 
No you still don't understand.

I was first talking about the SkyWest Holdings issue. Then you brought up the Airtran/SWA issue.

Now what issue do you want to talk about?

Now you're just trying to backpedal out of a case of reading comprehension failure.

You did say previously in post #115 that INC is being challenged by McCaskill.

Really? You were at the meeting and know EVERYTHING that was discussed between ALPA, SAPA, and Jerry? Please, do tell us all why it's being challenged by McCaskill.
 
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INC would get rid of XJET and let them have fun on there own well before being forced into merging them into the golden (non union) child. Just give up on this garbage formula.
 
This is borderline comical. I could see if all three pilot groups were clamoring for a one list and the company was still saying no. However, the SKW pilot group has made it pretty clear that they have no interest in a one list. So, instead of respecting that position, now you are threatening to force the SKW pilot group into doing it anyways? You're the one who needs good luck.
 

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