Hagar17
Deliverin' the Goods.....
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Beatdown of AFA Cadink and the Aftermath
Any of you F-15E cats know the REAL story? I guess this Strike Eagle dude got slammed and the C3C asking for an incentive ride got his feelings hurt and ass kissed at the 1-star level, at least.
Word on the street is the Strike Eagle dude got an LOR and grounded. What's the poop?
Emails are sanitized for your protection....
C3C XXXX,
Please let me apologize for the e-mail sent to you by Major XXX
XXXX. His e-mail does not represent the Air Force culture that we all
work so hard to build.
This nation is at war. What this nation needs is a cadre of patriots
who fight and win America's wars. The qualities of character that make
the most lethal warriors are humble, honest, professional Americans who
are compassionate and kind to one another as they take the fight to the
enemy with tenacity, resilience, and a fierce determination to win.
I thank you for committing to the defense of this nation as an officer
in the Air Force. I wish you all the success possible as you work to
sharpen the above characteristics within your own heart and soul.
Allow me to invite you to the 4th Fighter Wing between 21 Dec and 5 Jan
for a flight in the F-15E. We will show you first hand the proud and
honorable culture of great Americans who fight for this nation. We look
forward to you joining our ranks in the very near future.
Very Respectfully,
Col XXX XXXX
Commander, 4th Fighter Wing
Subject: RE: Cadet request for F-15 ride
You've got some brass balls on you, cadet fourth class XXX XXXX
HIV (seriously...is that your real name, lose that 'IV' crap, it just
sounds stupid). Let's break down your message and maybe we can educate
you on a thing or two.
"I'm a cadet at the Air Force Academy."
This message should be over right here. Period dot. Cadets don't troll
for rides, they EARN them through the proper channels just like
everybody else. We've got a long list of maintainers who have earned
awards through this wing to get incentive rides. These guys bust their
asses in the freezing cold and blistering heat and only the lucky few
get the privilege of having a ride. Name me three things you think
you've done to 'earn' a Strike Eagle ride. Seriously. And by the way,
I've read about all the 'hard work' here -
http://www.gdsalumni.blogspot.com/. And I quote "The learning curve was
very steep this past year as I learned about military culture and
doctrine in a pretty stressful environment." Brother, you have no idea
what a stressful environment is.
"trying to arrange a flight with the 333rd Fighter Wing"
Sweet mother of pearl, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. We
are the 333rd Fighter Squadron, and we are a division of the 4th Fighter
Wing. If you want to snivel a ride from us, you ought to at least get
your facts straight. This is the foreshadowing of your ignorance, let's
continue....
"I have my Secret Clearance"
Your secret clearance doesn't mean f*** all to us. You think we're
going to take you up on a tactical sortie? You think we're going to let
you sit in on classified briefings? You think we're going to hang out
and talk tactics with you? YGBFSM.
"and Physiological Training Card"
Your physiological training card doesn't mean f*** all to us. Remember
all those hard working maintainers I mentioned earlier? Not one of them
has a physiological training card - don't try to impress us with that
crap.
"and can coordinate any AOC approval"
Last time I checked, the AOC didn't run the flying schedule of the 4th
FW or coordination of our incentive flights. Apparently you're not
familiar with chain of command and proper channels. Let me tell you
what this does NOT consist of; it does NOT consist of going VFR direct
to the 333rd Fighter Squadron scheduling shop and bothering our hard
working schedulers. This consists of you talking to your commander,
your commander talking to our commander, somebody in between giving the
approval, and then in the middle of your pipe dream you will be denied
your flight.
"My presence does not impose any limitations on the mission; I'm just
along for the ride."
You couldn't be more wrong. What exactly is it you think we do here?
Do you know anything about the F-15E? Do you know anything about
Seymour Johnson? Do you know anything about the 333rd? Since it would
seem the answer to all of the above is a blatant 'No', I'll clue you in.
In the F-15E, while we do have two seats, the second seat is not an
empty seat that only gets occupied when goobs like yourself call up
looking for a ride. It's a seat for qualified aircrew - we call them
Weapon System Officers. He is an essential part of our mission and we
don't give him the boot for guys who are looking to bum a ride. Also,
the 333rd is a Formal Training Unit. That means that we train young
pilots and WSOs, so to give you a ride, we would either have to boot a
student WSO in aforementioned formal course, or an instructor WSO trying
to teach said student WSO. Get the picture?
"Any further guidance or authorization you can provide on this matter is
much appreciated."
...and I'm spent - Hopefully this will serve as all the guidance you
need. Gents, if there is something I have left out of this mentoring
session with young cadet third class citizen XXXX the HIV, please
feel free to chime in.
Maj XXX XXXX
333rd FS
________________________________
Subject: RE: Cadet request for F-15 ride
Here's the guy who keeps calling up and bugging the scheduling shop
about getting a flight.
Subject: Cadet request for F-15 ride
Lt. XXXX,
I am a cadet at the Air Force Academy trying to arrange a flight with
the 333rd Fighter Wing between 21 December and 5 January. I have my
Secret Clearance and Physiological Training Card and can coordinate any
AOC approval or necessary medical clearance (Form 1042). My presence
does not impose any limitations on the mission; I'm just along for the
ride. Any further guidance or authorization you can provide on this
matter is much appreciated. Email is the best way to contact me
, but my cell phone number is xxxx
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Very Respectfully,
C3C XXX XXXX IV
CS-20 Tough Twenty Trolls
United States Air Force Academy
Any of you F-15E cats know the REAL story? I guess this Strike Eagle dude got slammed and the C3C asking for an incentive ride got his feelings hurt and ass kissed at the 1-star level, at least.
Word on the street is the Strike Eagle dude got an LOR and grounded. What's the poop?
Emails are sanitized for your protection....
C3C XXXX,
Please let me apologize for the e-mail sent to you by Major XXX
XXXX. His e-mail does not represent the Air Force culture that we all
work so hard to build.
This nation is at war. What this nation needs is a cadre of patriots
who fight and win America's wars. The qualities of character that make
the most lethal warriors are humble, honest, professional Americans who
are compassionate and kind to one another as they take the fight to the
enemy with tenacity, resilience, and a fierce determination to win.
I thank you for committing to the defense of this nation as an officer
in the Air Force. I wish you all the success possible as you work to
sharpen the above characteristics within your own heart and soul.
Allow me to invite you to the 4th Fighter Wing between 21 Dec and 5 Jan
for a flight in the F-15E. We will show you first hand the proud and
honorable culture of great Americans who fight for this nation. We look
forward to you joining our ranks in the very near future.
Very Respectfully,
Col XXX XXXX
Commander, 4th Fighter Wing
Subject: RE: Cadet request for F-15 ride
You've got some brass balls on you, cadet fourth class XXX XXXX
HIV (seriously...is that your real name, lose that 'IV' crap, it just
sounds stupid). Let's break down your message and maybe we can educate
you on a thing or two.
"I'm a cadet at the Air Force Academy."
This message should be over right here. Period dot. Cadets don't troll
for rides, they EARN them through the proper channels just like
everybody else. We've got a long list of maintainers who have earned
awards through this wing to get incentive rides. These guys bust their
asses in the freezing cold and blistering heat and only the lucky few
get the privilege of having a ride. Name me three things you think
you've done to 'earn' a Strike Eagle ride. Seriously. And by the way,
I've read about all the 'hard work' here -
http://www.gdsalumni.blogspot.com/. And I quote "The learning curve was
very steep this past year as I learned about military culture and
doctrine in a pretty stressful environment." Brother, you have no idea
what a stressful environment is.
"trying to arrange a flight with the 333rd Fighter Wing"
Sweet mother of pearl, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. We
are the 333rd Fighter Squadron, and we are a division of the 4th Fighter
Wing. If you want to snivel a ride from us, you ought to at least get
your facts straight. This is the foreshadowing of your ignorance, let's
continue....
"I have my Secret Clearance"
Your secret clearance doesn't mean f*** all to us. You think we're
going to take you up on a tactical sortie? You think we're going to let
you sit in on classified briefings? You think we're going to hang out
and talk tactics with you? YGBFSM.
"and Physiological Training Card"
Your physiological training card doesn't mean f*** all to us. Remember
all those hard working maintainers I mentioned earlier? Not one of them
has a physiological training card - don't try to impress us with that
crap.
"and can coordinate any AOC approval"
Last time I checked, the AOC didn't run the flying schedule of the 4th
FW or coordination of our incentive flights. Apparently you're not
familiar with chain of command and proper channels. Let me tell you
what this does NOT consist of; it does NOT consist of going VFR direct
to the 333rd Fighter Squadron scheduling shop and bothering our hard
working schedulers. This consists of you talking to your commander,
your commander talking to our commander, somebody in between giving the
approval, and then in the middle of your pipe dream you will be denied
your flight.
"My presence does not impose any limitations on the mission; I'm just
along for the ride."
You couldn't be more wrong. What exactly is it you think we do here?
Do you know anything about the F-15E? Do you know anything about
Seymour Johnson? Do you know anything about the 333rd? Since it would
seem the answer to all of the above is a blatant 'No', I'll clue you in.
In the F-15E, while we do have two seats, the second seat is not an
empty seat that only gets occupied when goobs like yourself call up
looking for a ride. It's a seat for qualified aircrew - we call them
Weapon System Officers. He is an essential part of our mission and we
don't give him the boot for guys who are looking to bum a ride. Also,
the 333rd is a Formal Training Unit. That means that we train young
pilots and WSOs, so to give you a ride, we would either have to boot a
student WSO in aforementioned formal course, or an instructor WSO trying
to teach said student WSO. Get the picture?
"Any further guidance or authorization you can provide on this matter is
much appreciated."
...and I'm spent - Hopefully this will serve as all the guidance you
need. Gents, if there is something I have left out of this mentoring
session with young cadet third class citizen XXXX the HIV, please
feel free to chime in.
Maj XXX XXXX
333rd FS
________________________________
Subject: RE: Cadet request for F-15 ride
Here's the guy who keeps calling up and bugging the scheduling shop
about getting a flight.
Subject: Cadet request for F-15 ride
Lt. XXXX,
I am a cadet at the Air Force Academy trying to arrange a flight with
the 333rd Fighter Wing between 21 December and 5 January. I have my
Secret Clearance and Physiological Training Card and can coordinate any
AOC approval or necessary medical clearance (Form 1042). My presence
does not impose any limitations on the mission; I'm just along for the
ride. Any further guidance or authorization you can provide on this
matter is much appreciated. Email is the best way to contact me
, but my cell phone number is xxxx
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Very Respectfully,
C3C XXX XXXX IV
CS-20 Tough Twenty Trolls
United States Air Force Academy
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