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FYI...it takes some internals 2 or 3 tries to get hired. It is a TOUGH process, and because the internals are "automatic" sometimes they are looked at with some skepticism. Just "meeting the mins" and getting the call certainly doesn't mean you will get hired. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but the class a few in front of me had an RSW handler/courier that took at least 2 tries, and my class had a mechanic who took 3 tries. I think working for FDX can be a good strategy, but have a backup plan and keep yourself current.

We have hired from a host of regionals, but Pinnacle is based in MEM and the overlapping crashpad/social scene can't hurt anyone's chances. If my goal was FDX, Pinnacle would be my first choice of regionals. I am not saying its the BEST regional job, but rather the one that would create the most opportunites to network towards that interview.

I know its a tough road...good luck everyone!
 
What's so special about 121 time anyway? Those of us who fly on demand freight go "above and beyond the normal call of duty" as a normal part of our jobs. Worst weather, longest days(and nights), and antiquated equiptment, but we get the job done to the scorn of the RJ jock that has the easier schedule (albiet the lower pay). So what is so important about 121 time? My cohorts and I were just wondering.
 
If your friend is female or part of a "minority" they may get hired before the interview is even over!! I have a friend (no 121PIC at all) interviewed and hired at Continental on the spot. I know of two others at my company that just got hired at UPS......none with "the curse of the cracker boy"!
 
SkyRat said:
What's so special about 121 time anyway? Those of us who fly on demand freight go "above and beyond the normal call of duty" as a normal part of our jobs. Worst weather, longest days(and nights), and antiquated equiptment, but we get the job done to the scorn of the RJ jock that has the easier schedule (albiet the lower pay). So what is so important about 121 time? My cohorts and I were just wondering.

I agree with you. Although, I think it is 100 times easier to go from 121 airline to 121 airline. The regs and procedures are a lot different, IMO. We had a guy in our new hire class who flew 135 and he was struggling through.
That is not to say it would be hard for you because there were also military guys who the 121 stuff was new to and they did fine. Am I making any sense? I just woke up.
 
spitfire1500 said:
If your friend is female or part of a "minority" they may get hired before the interview is even over!! I have a friend (no 121PIC at all) interviewed and hired at Continental on the spot. I know of two others at my company that just got hired at UPS......none with "the curse of the cracker boy"!

Yeah? Well I know like 5 white males that got hired at ATA (a few years back) with 1000 less PIC and total time than I had. They never even called me.

I am just wondering when some of you will stop milking what happened at United over 10 years ago and blaming not getting hired on all us evil women.

It cracks me up because my new hire class at UPS had 15 white males. The new hire class before mine had ALL white males. The new hire class after mine had 20 white males out of 21 new hires. Spitfire, you better become an astronaut because all of us ladies are stealing all your jobs......so you better fly the space shuttle to be competitive with all of us. Oh, did I mention that I had 800 TT when I got hired at UPS?
 
AlbieF15 said:
FYI...it takes some internals 2 or 3 tries to get hired. It is a TOUGH process, and because the internals are "automatic" sometimes they are looked at with some skepticism. Just "meeting the mins" and getting the call certainly doesn't mean you will get hired.
That coin, of course, has two sides. Some externals take 2 or 3 tries to get hired - no different from internals. Most externals will give up after one rejection. I might suggest that internals are more persistent in going for the second or third interview, and certainly more successful in obtaining the additional interview opportunities if they wish.

As far as facing a different level of scrutiny, I don't quite agree with you. I disagree with your suggestion that there is a higher standard because internals are frowned on. Panel interviews for internals include a third panelist, a company personnel representative, to insure and attest that the employee is treated fairly in the process. An external applicant that is rejected has no recourse. An internal applicant that is rejected can appeal under the company's Guaranteed Fair Treatment program. If he feels that he is qualified and has been rejected due to someone's unfair bias or other unfair treatment, he can begin an administrative process to attempt to overturn the decision. I believe the company goes out of its way to avoid such scenarios.

The most ambiguous requirement, and the one that is most difficult to maintain, is the "recency of experience" requirement. While you suggested that one "maintain a backup plan and keep [them]self current," I can't overemphasize the importance of staying current as an essential element of the PRIMARY plan. If you can't "throw boxes" and continue to fly, you might be throwing in vain. It's the difficult balancing act of keeping the FedEx job, where you're more or less expected to come when called, make that schedule primary in your life, etc., and keep the flying gig. If you can successfully juggle those two, and you're a nice enough fella, I don't think you can go wrong.


You'd be surprised by the number of folks who started out as couriers, handlers, mechanics, customer service reps, hazardous goods specialists, dispatchers, ... the list goes on. I met a 4-digit employee nember Captain the other day (while standing on the sidewalk in front of AOC sporting my new hat) who started as a courier. They're everywhere.





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satpak77 said:
I would tell him to go back and fly KC-10's in the military, become an IP, get out, joing the Guard/Reserve, and fly Part 121 Regionals while his application sits in Memphis. Check both blocks "Mil" and "Part 121" on the application

oh yeah, update every 3-6 months and find three people who have actually flown with you and are also employed by FedEx

also join 164th AW at Memphis (see "3 people" comment above) and start going to NASCAR and get involved in the Memphis auto racing scense, since Jack Lewis hangs out with that crowd supposedly

:)

PRICELESS
 
capt. megadeth said:
Yeah? Well I know like 5 white males that got hired at ATA (a few years back) with 1000 less PIC and total time than I had. They never even called me.

I am just wondering when some of you will stop milking what happened at United over 10 years ago and blaming not getting hired on all us evil women.

It cracks me up because my new hire class at UPS had 15 white males. The new hire class before mine had ALL white males. The new hire class after mine had 20 white males out of 21 new hires. Spitfire, you better become an astronaut because all of us ladies are stealing all your jobs......so you better fly the space shuttle to be competitive with all of us. Oh, did I mention that I had 800 TT when I got hired at UPS?


So, did you finally get on with UPS? If so, congrats!
 
For those of you who work at FedEx...can a new hire or a probationary pilot sponsor someone? The only people I know flying at FedEx have been there less than a year.
thanks
 
By UPS'ing your resume immediately!

Ok seriously though, hop on Northwest to MEM, take a cab around to the Fed Ex side of the airport, then kiss all the arse you can.
 
Can getting on with a Fedex feeder like Empire Airlines and flying Fokker f27's or ATR 42's lead to a pilot slot with Fedex? Its turboprop time, but could this still be an advantage?
 
The best way to get to Fed Ex in a few easy steps:

1. Go to Kinkos

2. Grab a Fed Ex box and put stuff in it

3. Slap a Fed Ex label on the side

4. Drop it in a Fed Ex dropbox and pay someone.


Voila!
 

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