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WRONG... FO's have every right to be pissed!!! What these guys did affects the FO's just as much as everyone else at TSA. Busting seniority and alter-ego's screws everyone, not just captains.
 
They are not scabs... If the TSA union doesn't like their existance, fight against it (they are)... Jumpseat wars and evil looks are not going to get you nowhere... I just find it pretty hypocritical for an 20K/yr. F.O. calling anyone else an undercutter..

It's called looking at the big picture. This battle has already been fought AND lost on another level. Until mainline pilot groups get their heads out of the sand it's all irrelevant.
 
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Smoked Toilet said:
Hey Go************************* boys...

Sorry we missed Tango off 27L yesterday when you were behind us. Really, we didnt mean to... I .... promise.

I thought that was a normal day for you....:pimp:
 
Why the hell is it that senior captains seem to think FO's should have no say and no rights? Look at FO pay. Look at reserve rules. The guys that negotiate this stuff are senior captains. I can totally see management sitting there at the negotiating table saying something like this to the senior captains on the negotiating committee....

"Ok guys....we see what's going on here, you give us these crappy junior work rules, reserve callouts, and FO pay, and we'll hook you up with a great 12 or 15 year pay rate. You don't have to deal with reserve and that stuff anyway."

FO pay should be 60% of captain pay for EVERY year. Why isn't it? Of course pilots eat their young. Senior captains don't give a flying $hit about FO's. "I've been here longer, so I know everything." Some of you FO's need to volunteer your way on the negotiating committee, and cry foul if they won't give you a shot.
 
CapnVegetto said:
Why the hell is it that senior captains seem to think FO's should have no say and no rights? Look at FO pay. Look at reserve rules. The guys that negotiate this stuff are senior captains. I can totally see management sitting there at the negotiating table saying something like this to the senior captains on the negotiating committee....

"Ok guys....we see what's going on here, you give us these crappy junior work rules, reserve callouts, and FO pay, and we'll hook you up with a great 12 or 15 year pay rate. You don't have to deal with reserve and that stuff anyway."

FO pay should be 60% of captain pay for EVERY year. Why isn't it? Of course pilots eat their young. Senior captains don't give a flying $hit about FO's. "I've been here longer, so I know everything." Some of you FO's need to volunteer your way on the negotiating committee, and cry foul if they won't give you a shot.

That's a completely different arguement in which I totally agree with you. The major airline unions are guilty of this too. Just look at Continental's first year pay !!!

What I'm getting at is the fact that there seems to be a vocal minority of regional F.O.'s that believe they have the right to deny deny jumpseats. It's hard for me to visualize a guy paid 21K putting down another making 20K, "alright buddy, you can afford to supersize... congrats..."
 
Smoked Toilet said:
Hey Go************************* boys...

Sorry we missed Tango off 27L yesterday when you were behind us. Really, we didnt mean to... I .... promise.

Funny:laugh: !!!! Why slam on the brakes????? You can use the whole runway if you want:beer: !!!!!! Some people need to have a laugh every once in a while, I heard it keeps the blood pressure down!
BTW- You are better than those A$$es over there:smash: !!!! Also, real professionals don't sleep, read, watch movies, listen to music, look at porn, have water fights while in the cockpit:rolleyes: ?!?! I guess I'm in with 95% of the "un-professional" pilot group!!!!
 
h25b said:
I love how most of the people on the boards with raging hatred against this whole thing are F.O.'s...

"Excuse me Capt., but throw this idiot off my airplane... I'm a 18K/yr. regional F.O. and he's ruining my career !!! "

Hilarious... :nuts:

I haven't seen that many TSA FO's making a$$es out of themselves over this. It's more the CA's that are vocal about this. I don't like the way it's happening but I'll suck it up until I can vote, then let my voice be heard there.
 
Does anyone know if GJ has voted on their union yet?
 
debo007 said:
U guys are a bit behind. I saw a Go-Jet 70 seater in DEN all last month at the gate every time I was in there.

What was the n-number? I see them everyday in DEN too, but it's shuttle america, not g-jets
 
Wow ! You guys are a bunch of whining whimpering pu$$ies, y'all must be pilots huh ? LMAO !!!
Man the Industry is in a worse state than I thought.
 

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