Bad day for Boeing

[WabiSabi]

Components and parts for Boeing's planes are made in 5 different continents anyway. Foreign contractors could cut us off either way. This is a simple case of the Pentagon choosing what they thought was a better design. Some win and some lose.

Perhaps Boeing didn't bribe enough Generals like they have in the past.

BTW; This mindless anti-French "Frog" crap is stupid. No, I'm not French nor am I a Francophile. It's just stupid.

 

[bigboeings]

One thing is for certain. In 50 years those 330,s will be on the scrap heap. Boeings are a superior built aircraft.

 

[Falconjet]

So PCL, I'm going to guess Canadian since you won't answer the question.

FJ

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

One thing is for certain. In 50 years those 330,s will be on the scrap heap. Boeings are a superior built aircraft.

Maybe in that time, Boeing can come up with a better design than a rehashed, too small, flutter-prone 767.

If the KC-45 does a better job of providing our aircrews and troops with support, then that is what I want.

I wish it was a Boeing, too.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I'm still upset about us awarding a contract to an American Company that is selling a foreign designed and built airplane...

So how do you feel about the current T-6A/B Texan II?

That came out of the JPATS program in the early '90's and it's the Pilatus PC-9. So that's a Swiss aircraft being used by the Air Force even though it's now being license-built by Raytheon. And if you research the JPATS competition, you'll note that nearly all of the contenders were foreign-designed aircraft that were being offered in "partnership" with various US manufacturers.

 

[atrdriver]

And the ATR is built where?

It's build in Tolouse, but then again, we're not talking about an ATR, we are talking about a tanker fleet for our military. Where is your ERJ built?

 

[PimpJuice]

Here's a novel thought, Airbus's offering was simply a better product. More fuel, more capacity, more advanced avionics. The 767 was designed in the 70's.

If I'm escorting a heavy division that needs gas, what do you think I care about - what company built the tanker or how much gas is available for me and my boys?

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

One thing is for certain. In 50 years those 330,s will be on the scrap heap. Boeings are a superior built aircraft.

Based on something you heard on the crew bus? And where exactly did you get your degree in Metallurgy and Fatigue?

 

[rfresh]

I don't care where some of the parts are built, Boeing is an American company and Airbus is not. This is a disgrace. The American military flying around a bunch of French airplanes. Unbelievable.

The problem is that Boeing couldn't play fairly and they got caught - this ruined their chances from that moment forward. In other words, they had Corp Greed and it caught up with them.

I believe if they would have bid fairly they would have won this contract - but they didn't, got caught and now they are seeing the results of their actions.

 

[bigboeings]

Yes the Airbus carries more fuel, but it cant use as many airfields as the smaller 767, making it much less versatile.

 

[Tomct]

Should have bought BOEING!!! Bad News for the Military!:crying:

 

[climbhappy]

question: why would you need to be concerned about airliefds when the mission is fueling in the air?

read the WSJ article: airbus was a better value apples to apples,

but I would have gone to boeing and said what can you guys do to lower the price and make the price adjusted contract more in line with lesser value airplane as far as payload, fuel and passengers .
they could have gotten it done.

 

[PCL_128]

So PCL, I'm going to guess Canadian since you won't answer the question.

FJ

Sorry, missed the question. Some Chryslers are built in the US by UAW workers. Mine was built in Canada by CAW workers, which is the Canadian branch of the UAW. My only concern when purchasing a car is that it's made by union labor. Some Toyotas are even built by UAW workers.

 

[ableone]

Yes the Airbus carries more fuel, but it cant use as many airfields as the smaller 767, making it much less versatile.

Please list these military bases and/or civil airports that are big enough for a 76 but too small for a 330.

 

[Busdriver320]

You know I just have to comment on this thread and all the others with regard to foreign ownership, open skies, mergers with growth opportunities, etc.

We as pilots are not too bothered to be "benefitting" from all this international expansion, flying new routes to China, India and wherever else. I would like to pose a question for all to ponder:

Do you think these planes are full of tourists going to China to take pictures of the Great Wall, going to India to marvel at the Taj Mahal, to Europe to backpack around the EU, etc., etc.? Are they full of foreigners yearning to come to America to see the Statue of Liberty, go to NASCAR races, spend lots of money in our tourist stuff, etc., etc.?

Some, maybe. Most are traveling around the world engaging in a "global economy", and we are none too happy to be earning a living ENABLING it.

I'm not defending it or taking a position here. Just asking for all of us to stop and think a minute about what we do before bashing all these deals and policies.

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo