Avanti Missing an Elevator?

[Newkem]

Elevating

Any new ADs or required inspections as a result of this incident besides the obvious?

Lol

That being - add to the preflight and post flight checklist

- ELEVATOR : INSTALLED -

 

[hammer2]

Any new ADs or required inspections as a result of this incident besides the obvious?

Lol

That being - add to the preflight and post flight checklist

- ELEVATOR : INSTALLED -

Or just defer it!

 

[Paradoxus]

Or just defer it!

Ahhhh...now that phrase brings back some memories from AJI....

 

[Capt. JD]

Off Roading in Teterboro!

My guess would be that the one & only electric hydraulic pump failed...

http://www.northjersey.com/news/Plane_veers_off_runway_at_Teterboro_Airport.html

 

[RoughAir]

The brakes on the Piaggio on a good day with everything working are a piece if sh#t.

 

[skybert]

I'll second that

 

[Capt. JD]

Lose an elevator and lose your job at Avantair!

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-investigates-missing-avantair-p180-elevator-375104/

Please tell me this is a case of poor journalism. I can't see how a crew would lose an elevator after takeoff, fly to another airport, land, then fly it again.

I heard the pilot got fired for this...
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/piaggio-avanti-flies-missing-elevator

 

[Capt. JD]

AD on Piaggio

I heard the pilot got fired for this...
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/piaggio-avanti-flies-missing-elevator

This was put out 2 years ago! I guess maintance in CMA forgot about this...

https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-industries-spa-model-piaggio-p-180-airplanes

 

[Newkem]

Whoa.

This was put out 2 years ago! I guess maintance in CMA forgot about this...

https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-industries-spa-model-piaggio-p-180-airplanes

Remember the Starship? Raytheon put them in the chipper to prevent huge issues like this. I say ground the entire fleet of Avanti's.

"We are adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for the products listed above. This AD results from mandatory continuing airworthiness information (MCAI) issued by an aviation authority of another country to identify and correct an unsafe condition on an aviation product. The MCAI describes the unsafe condition as:
Some cases of corrosion were detected in the interface between the elevator hinges fittings (metallic) and the horizontal stabilizer (carbon fibre); investigation identified the cause in galvanic corrosion between dissimilar materials.
If left uncorrected, this situation could lead to a structural failure of the elevator, which could result in possible loss of control of the aeroplane.":erm:

 

[Capt. JD]

Remember the Starship? Raytheon put them in the chipper to prevent huge issues like this. I say ground the entire fleet of Avanti's.

"We are adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for the products listed above. This AD results from mandatory continuing airworthiness information (MCAI) issued by an aviation authority of another country to identify and correct an unsafe condition on an aviation product. The MCAI describes the unsafe condition as:
Some cases of corrosion were detected in the interface between the elevator hinges fittings (metallic) and the horizontal stabilizer (carbon fibre); investigation identified the cause in galvanic corrosion between dissimilar materials.
If left uncorrected, this situation could lead to a structural failure of the elevator, which could result in possible loss of control of the aeroplane.":erm:

The key word, "If left uncorrected..." How could this have happened any other way other then Avantair maintenance failing to comply with this AD? Taking off from CMA, a maintenance base no less!

https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-industries-spa-model-piaggio-p-180-airplanes
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/piaggio-avanti-flies-missing-elevator