Avanti Missing an Elevator?

[doylehargraves]

Who cares?

 

[kman]

They didn't lose an elevator and fly to another airport.

Ooppps

 

[eightdriver]

Whiskers? Flippers? Curb feelers? We must know......!

LMFAO....:laugh: Thats funny $hit right there.

 

[fugazi]

Heard something about a pay cut over there..wtf!? Something about a vote on which cut to take?

 

[Capt. JD]

Well it's good to know that an elevator can come off on one side and the other side can make up the difference!

 

[fob727]

What's the latest a Avantair?

 

[RoughAir]

From the SEC Form 8K filing:

30-Aug-2012
Change in Directors or Principal Officers

Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of Directors;
Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements of Certain Officers. (b) Effective August 30, 2012, the Chief Operating Officer of Avantair, Inc. (the "Company"), Kevin Beitzel, has resigned his position with the Company. Mr. Beitzel has agreed to remain with the Company in order to transition his previous responsibilities through September 30, 2012, following which he will remain with the Company on a consulting basis as needed.
(e) On August 24, 2012, Steven Santo, Chief Executive Officer of the Company and Stephen Wagman, President of the Company (together, the "Senior Officers"), in furtherance of their continued actions as part of the Company's ongoing efforts to reduce expenses, advised the Board of Directors of voluntary decreases in their compensation, which the Board of Directors approved.
Effective August 24, 2012, each Senior Officer agreed to a decrease in his annual base salary by the following percentages (when compared to their respective annual base salary levels in fiscal 2012): Steven Santo, Chief Executive Officer, agreed to reduce his salary by 15%, from $525,000 to $450,000, and Stephen Wagman, President, agreed to reduce his salary by 6%, from $375,000 to $352,500.
Further, each Senior Officer agreed to voluntarily forego his annual bonus opportunities for fiscal year 2012. When compared to Mr. Santo's bonus payment for fiscal 2011, which was $200,000, the result is a further decrease in his compensation level, such that Mr. Santo's total compensation decreased from fiscal 2011 by approximately 52%.
Consistent with the Senior Officers' salary reductions, the Company's non-employee directors have agreed to reduce their director compensation by 40%. Each Director will reduce their annual cash compensation by 40% from fiscal 2012 levels, from $40,000 to $24,000. Further, the Chairman of the Board and each Committee Chairman will reduce the additional compensation for their services as respective Chairmen by 40%. More specifically, Robert Lepofsky, Chairman of the Board, will reduce his additional chairman compensation from $32,000 to $19,200; Dick DeWolfe, Audit Committee Chairman, will reduce his additional chairman compensation from $ 24,000 to $14,400 and A. Clinton Allen, Governance Committee Chairman, and Arthur Goldberg, Compensation Committee Chairman, will reduce their additional chairman compensation from $16,000 to $9,600.

 

[skybert]

Elevator inspections would be my guess.

 

[brokeflyer]

wow....from $525,000 down to $450,000.....how's he gonna make it?

 

[fob727]

How big of a hit are the employees taking? Thanks

 

[Newkem]

Elevating

Any new ADs or required inspections as a result of this incident besides the obvious?

Lol

That being - add to the preflight and post flight checklist

- ELEVATOR : INSTALLED -

 

[hammer2]

Any new ADs or required inspections as a result of this incident besides the obvious?

Lol

That being - add to the preflight and post flight checklist

- ELEVATOR : INSTALLED -

Or just defer it!

 

[Paradoxus]

Or just defer it!

Ahhhh...now that phrase brings back some memories from AJI....

 

[Capt. JD]

Off Roading in Teterboro!

My guess would be that the one & only electric hydraulic pump failed...

http://www.northjersey.com/news/Plane_veers_off_runway_at_Teterboro_Airport.html

 

[RoughAir]

The brakes on the Piaggio on a good day with everything working are a piece if sh#t.

 

[skybert]

I'll second that

 

[Capt. JD]

Lose an elevator and lose your job at Avantair!

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/ntsb-investigates-missing-avantair-p180-elevator-375104/

Please tell me this is a case of poor journalism. I can't see how a crew would lose an elevator after takeoff, fly to another airport, land, then fly it again.

I heard the pilot got fired for this...
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/piaggio-avanti-flies-missing-elevator

 

[Capt. JD]

AD on Piaggio

I heard the pilot got fired for this...
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/piaggio-avanti-flies-missing-elevator

This was put out 2 years ago! I guess maintance in CMA forgot about this...

https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-industries-spa-model-piaggio-p-180-airplanes

 

[Newkem]

Whoa.

This was put out 2 years ago! I guess maintance in CMA forgot about this...

https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-industries-spa-model-piaggio-p-180-airplanes

Remember the Starship? Raytheon put them in the chipper to prevent huge issues like this. I say ground the entire fleet of Avanti's.

"We are adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for the products listed above. This AD results from mandatory continuing airworthiness information (MCAI) issued by an aviation authority of another country to identify and correct an unsafe condition on an aviation product. The MCAI describes the unsafe condition as:
Some cases of corrosion were detected in the interface between the elevator hinges fittings (metallic) and the horizontal stabilizer (carbon fibre); investigation identified the cause in galvanic corrosion between dissimilar materials.
If left uncorrected, this situation could lead to a structural failure of the elevator, which could result in possible loss of control of the aeroplane.":erm:

 

[Capt. JD]

Remember the Starship? Raytheon put them in the chipper to prevent huge issues like this. I say ground the entire fleet of Avanti's.

"We are adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for the products listed above. This AD results from mandatory continuing airworthiness information (MCAI) issued by an aviation authority of another country to identify and correct an unsafe condition on an aviation product. The MCAI describes the unsafe condition as:
Some cases of corrosion were detected in the interface between the elevator hinges fittings (metallic) and the horizontal stabilizer (carbon fibre); investigation identified the cause in galvanic corrosion between dissimilar materials.
If left uncorrected, this situation could lead to a structural failure of the elevator, which could result in possible loss of control of the aeroplane.":erm:

The key word, "If left uncorrected..." How could this have happened any other way other then Avantair maintenance failing to comply with this AD? Taking off from CMA, a maintenance base no less!

https://www.federalregister.gov/art...-industries-spa-model-piaggio-p-180-airplanes
http://www.flyingmag.com/news/piaggio-avanti-flies-missing-elevator