Avantair

[clydefastly]

I don't know if this TC lady is in fact here, but I have only seen improvements in hotel and other "on the road" living conditions.

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

Cam, there are a LOT of former Avant personnel who were "released" while I was in training who will say, "What planet is Glass on? We were laid off!"

 

[glasspilot]

My name is not "Cam". It's Cameron. I don't know why you like to drop my name so easily on this forum, but whatever.

Here are some FACTS:

1.) You left Avantair.

2.) You created "BeenThereDoneIt" as a reference to you've been to Avantair and "done" it and your first post was titled "A review of Avantair" subtitled "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" where it was totally biased against Avantair.

3.) You were straight out caught making numerous screen names on FlightInfo.com. On one occasion you were busted making a comment to yourself on the wrong screen name. That post was quickly deleted by you when you were called out for doing it. I understand why you would want to add to the illusion of support for your viewpoint, but making up fictious posts so you can own both sides of the conversation is VERY misleading to the very people you purport to be informing.

4.) The company you left and now slam is what I, and many others, expect to put our kids through college. I look to Avantair to pay my mortgage and put food on the table. When I see anyone attack my company on this and other public forums I get just a little defensive. I can't imagine anyone just laying down to misinformation about their company by a former employee.

5.) Your avatar is designed with the sole purpose of pointing out how Avantair "forced" you to fly broken planes. However, if you look at the picture the needle looks to be in the green to me. Also, if you felt it was unsafe I would remind you that both rudder pedals are equiped with toe brakes and you did not, in fact, have to take off.

6.) You have on many times called me out. This is totally unwarranted. My only complaint with you is you insist on getting on a public forum and hurl insults at Avantair. Remember, that's the company I work for and have a vested interest in it's survival.

7.) I understand you are upset that you didn't upgrade. I understand you couldn't see second year FO pay making the grade. I understand.

Please understand I simply want the best for all Avantair employees. We are all pulling on the same rope to help insure future survival, like many other fractional companies.

I still can not understand why you care so much about a former employer. It's obvious you take great pride every time something negative about Avantair comes up..be it aircraft mishaps or stock price falls. You're right there to point them out to everyone.

Please stop. Please move on. You have made your position very clear to everyone. So have I. Can we let this be, or have you become engrossed in the demise of Avantair to the point you can't stop yourself?

 

[mainiac]

My name is not "Cam". It's Cameron. I don't know why you like to drop my name so easily on this forum, but whatever.

Here are some FACTS:

1.) You left Avantair.

2.) You created "BeenThereDoneIt" as a reference to you've been to Avantair and "done" it and your first post was titled "A review of Avantair" subtitled "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" where it was totally biased against Avantair.

3.) You were straight out caught making numerous screen names on FlightInfo.com. On one occasion you were busted making a comment to yourself on the wrong screen name. That post was quickly deleted by you when you were called out for doing it. I understand why you would want to add to the illusion of support for your viewpoint, but making up fictious posts so you can own both sides of the conversation is VERY misleading to the very people you purport to be informing.

4.) The company you left and now slam is what I, and many others, expect to put our kids through college. I look to Avantair to pay my mortgage and put food on the table. When I see anyone attack my company on this and other public forums I get just a little defensive. I can't imagine anyone just laying down to misinformation about their company by a former employee.

5.) Your avatar is designed with the sole purpose of pointing out how Avantair "forced" you to fly broken planes. However, if you look at the picture the needle looks to be in the green to me. Also, if you felt it was unsafe I would remind you that both rudder pedals are equiped with toe brakes and you did not, in fact, have to take off.

6.) You have on many times called me out. This is totally unwarranted. My only complaint with you is you insist on getting on a public forum and hurl insults at Avantair. Remember, that's the company I work for and have a vested interest in it's survival.

7.) I understand you are upset that you didn't upgrade. I understand you couldn't see second year FO pay making the grade. I understand.

Please understand I simply want the best for all Avantair employees. We are all pulling on the same rope to help insure future survival, like many other fractional companies.

I still can not understand why you care so much about a former employer. It's obvious you take great pride every time something negative about Avantair comes up..be it aircraft mishaps or stock price falls. You're right there to point them out to everyone.

Please stop. Please move on. You have made your position very clear to everyone. So have I. Can we let this be, or have you become engrossed in the demise of Avantair to the point you can't stop yourself?

Second time, seconding Glass's motion...

and, moving on will probably make you a happier person.

 

[mainiac]

Oh, and just to back up my happiness with my job:
Day 1 off, just got back from a nice fall foliage ride on my Harley, got my Sugarloaf (Ski) season pass in the mail today, paid my daughter's college tuition bill, paid my mortgage, sat in my hot tub...

Can't fit it all on one of those "Life is Good" T-shirts

(I'm not trying to gloat, lots of great folks out of work, and I feel for them, having been there, but I feel really lucky to be where I am!)

 

[Geronimo4497]

This message is hidden because BeenThereDoneIt is on your ignore list.

Ahh, much better. I suggest you all try it and stop feeding the troll. Back to vacation......

 

[wacoflyr]

Amen, brother. And Glass, I agree. He should just go away. After all, he chose to leave. Maniac, sorry about the sailing. Just too cold. Next summer, I swear.

 

[HazMat]

When you say ALOT of people, you couldn't be more wrong. As Glass stated, the positions eliminated were nothing more then positions that were created by a former executive that were not needed. Our quality of service continues to get better and the company financial strength continues to grow.

I hope your ground instructing job is going well for you. Enjoy the time you have available with your family and being home at night. Maybe you run another flight schol like you did before you came to Avantair.

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

Me too! The pay is much better and I'm home every night with weekends off.

 

[AftCG182]

Oh, please don't let it end here! Mr. BDTI, I never met you when you were working here, but I know the other guys and I love watching you all go back and forth...

Bring up the crew meals again PLEASE

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

You seem to know a lot about someone whom you have never met.

 

[ArtVandalay]

It may be difficult for the netjets guys to get jobs with companies knowing that they will leave as soon as called back. Of course, lets hope no one gets laid off.

 

[f9driver]

Unemployment

Buck,
I take it you believe when unemployment runs out you will be better able to get a job or go back to Netjets. I wouldn't bet on it!!
This economic climate may get worse or last a lot longer than you think.

 

[X-rated]

She's at XO Jet.....that is a mistake they will regret. Nothing but a trail of crap left in her wake.

I think everyone at XO loves her. She just needs to know what is important to XOJET prior to negotiating the deals. Senior management has obviously made that clear to her here. In fact, when she negotiates with our preferred hotels, a senior line pilot works with her. There is no denying she is extremely good at her job, and she has only made our lives better and easier while saving the company a boatload of cash. Possibly her role was different or not as well defined at Avantair or Flight Options. It's not about finding the rock bottom lowest pice; it's about value and leveraging buying power. At XOJET, she saves us significant money, while improving QOL instead of diminishing it. But, I think it is a company culture thing, and I can see how her role might be different at other places.

 

[hangarrat]

I think everyone at XO loves her. She just needs to know what is important to XOJET prior to negotiating the deals. Senior management has obviously made that clear to her here. In fact, when she negotiates with our preferred hotels, a senior line pilot works with her. There is no denying she is extremely good at her job, and she has only made our lives better and easier while saving the company a boatload of cash. Possibly her role was different or not as well defined at Avantair or Flight Options. It's not about finding the rock bottom lowest pice; it's about value and leveraging buying power. At XOJET, she saves us significant money, while improving QOL instead of diminishing it. But, I think it is a company culture thing, and I can see how her role might be different at other places.

Good luck with that ! ! !

 

[BeenThereDoneIt]

Some of these Avantair pilots are quite vicious on those who are no longer with their company. There are MUCH greener pastures outside of Clearwater, FL.

 

[corpflunkie]

Some of these Avantair pilots are quite vicious on those who are no longer with their company. There are MUCH greener pastures outside of Clearwater, FL.

You weren't there when she was. Trust me, she really screwed things up while she was floating around the hanger on her broom.

 

[wacoflyr]

There are MUCH greener pastures outside of Clearwater, FL.

Then go find one, and more power to ya. 'Bye.

 

[myrealnameis]

Some of these Avantair pilots are quite vicious on those who are no longer with their company. There are MUCH greener pastures outside of Clearwater, FL.

No, we are only vicious to you. "Greener pastures". And what planet have you been living on. Just to bring you up to speed...25,000(my estimate) pilots on the street no end in sight, commies in the white house, netjets parking airplanes. Greener pastures...only for a commie liberal hippie.

 

[AftCG182]

No, we are only vicious to you. "Greener pastures". And what planet have you been living on. Just to bring you up to speed...25,000(my estimate) pilots on the street no end in sight, commies in the white house, netjets parking airplanes. Greener pastures...only for a commie liberal hippie.

"Commies in the White House"?!?! As a veteran who defended us against the Commmies in the 80's in the USAF, I've got to speak up. Obama is just taking the drastic steps needed to fix what Bush spent 8 years screwing up. I'm neither Liberal nor Conservative, I'm "What's Best For My Country". The enhancements that are being made NEED to be made, or we're going to be in a pool of sh!t so deep we'll never wade out.

p.s. Just my opinion, of course :beer:

p.p.s Those changes seem to be working, BTW!