Autoland vs HUD, RNAV/RNP vs IAN?

[aa73]

AA is also one of the few who don't certify the 738s with autoland. Hand-flown HUD on CAT 3s only.

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

AA is also one of the few who don't certify the 738s with autoland. Hand-flown HUD on CAT 3s only.

Well, there you go, blame it on American, because the Southwest founding fathers in flight ops, Were doing everything they could to copy the AA operation including those white bars on epaulets! Nothing like wearing white bars with a seatbelt covered in 20 years of dirt, grime and someone's lunch. Oh well, on with a new topic!

Damn Americans!

Later,
KBB

 

[Old School 737]

Alaska has lower mins cause we autoland using the HUD as a extra reference .. 30 foot DH...

 

[vixin]

Alaska has lower mins cause we autoland using the HUD as a extra reference .. 30 foot DH...

Wow 30' vs. 50' bet that gets you in all the time.

 

[Capn Butthead]

It is about cost with the HUD. When we announced RNP that was when I knew we were looking at international stuff. Because lord knows the FAA is moving so fast on getting it in the US!!! RNP will give us a lot more flexibility flying down there. I don't know how many times I was on approach in Mexico and the vor or ils magically disappeared!

The HUD is great....unless you're flying with a HUD stud with a name like viper...then you pray it's deferred so you can grab some coffee and popcorn and sit back and watch the show! Fun times until you get sea sick...

 

[humveedriver]

Whats an IAN? Says the guy who gets to look at three lights during a CATIII.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/aero_22/737approach_story.html#3

See above link for the gospel. Short story is it makes flying a non precision approach procedurally and visually the same. If you are doing a RNAV approach you just have to ensure a LOC frequency isn't dialed in. The only airport I have gone into where the G/P was way off from the VASI is LAS. Of course the regular ILS G/S is a little funky there too (at least 50 ft high too high over the threshold). With IAN you hit the approach button, ILS like course and path indications pop up and you fly the approach just like an ILS to the non precision minimums.

 

[texman]

Humm, I know what you are saying. I was talking to some AT bros and told them they might see some things done diffrent. Not because we don't know about the other styles of flying via automation, it is cost related. Trust me when I got to SWA I was like "why are we doing it like this". I talk to some people in training in a diplomatic way and they told me it would cost SWA extra money. So now I think mmmmmm must save us money.

Can any SWA guy or gal tell me how many software versions we have in the FMC? I think it is 12. This had to do with what ever was coming off the line at the time. It was cheaper to do it this way, I think.

 

[waveflyer]

Here's the routine, cowboy boots shined, long sleeve shirt tucked in under the braided black belt- full feathered hat hung in most visible location, dinner jacket hanging nicely, perform 90% of preflight tests while standing at attention in the jumpseat area, FO waiting to get by, sandwiched between passengers purposely rolling their bags over pilot toes and the FA while getting provisioned. Strap yourself in at the waist (which is never complete until that center cock belt is clicked and pulled nice and tight-) door locked, FO waiting on the before push check, ops agent waiting on the push, gun out and holstered, FO thoroughly briefed about the top 7 hijacking scenarios, THEN, and ONLY then- Shoulder harness UNDER THE EPAULETTES.
Keeps them nice and bright for years-
This is the only way real pilots prepare to fly.

Well, there you go, blame it on American, because the Southwest founding fathers in flight ops, Were doing everything they could to copy the AA operation including those white bars on epaulets! Nothing like wearing white bars with a seatbelt covered in 20 years of dirt, grime and someone's lunch. Oh well, on with a new topic!

Damn Americans!

Later,
KBB

 

[Whine Lover]

But....wait...I thought the whole purpose of epaulets was to keep the shirt from getting dirty.

Well that, and picking up hot babes at the mall...


NO?


YK-WTF?

 

[Critter717]

Thanks for the information.

 

[Old School 737]

Wow 30' vs. 50' bet that gets you in all the time.

I think it goes down to 400 RVR as well. So we can start the approach when others can't even do it

 

[dicko]

Here's the routine, cowboy boots shined, long sleeve shirt tucked in under the braided black belt- full feathered hat hung in most visible location, dinner jacket hanging nicely, perform 90% of preflight tests while standing at attention in the jumpseat area, FO waiting to get by, sandwiched between passengers purposely rolling their bags over pilot toes and the FA while getting provisioned. Strap yourself in at the waist (which is never complete until that center cock belt is clicked and pulled nice and tight-) door locked, FO waiting on the before push check, ops agent waiting on the push, gun out and holstered, FO thoroughly briefed about the top 7 hijacking scenarios, THEN, and ONLY then- Shoulder harness UNDER THE EPAULETTES.

I'm going to go quietly into the Lav, Tase myself, then fall thrashing and twitching out of the door into the galley.

 

[HalinTexas]

Y'all wear shoulder harnesses? Really?

 

[ron burgundy]

I always thought dirty old stripes meant.....you've been doing this a spell and that you are not fresh out of new hire/acquire class.

 

[Lear70]

i'm going to go quietly into the lav, tase myself, then fall thrashing and twitching out of the door into the galley.

lmao!!

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