August 1/2 NJA interviews

[Dr Pepper]

RP170 - good luck.

The rest - why would anyone want to hide in training? I just finished initial and I can't see doing that again for a long long time. If FO pay was kick-a$$, I would stay where I am so I would not have to suffer another intial. FO pay won't see much, if any, change until 2010. Hopefully IBT and the departure of dumb-a-ciles will ease the money pain in years 2-5+.

 

[Wankel7]

Just wondering if any of the interview people were looking for the DFW base?

 

[Ultra Grump]

I do have a problem with them bidding from the ultra to another newer improved ultra with a different name and slowing down my income progression, but that's their right.

What a dumb-ass thing to say. Let's see: Ultra with no TCAS, crappy Honeywell avionics, weaker engines, and boots; vs Encore+ with TCAS (worth the switch alone), Collins ProLine 21 (also worth the switch alone), more powerful engines, and hot wing. No brainer. Of course you must have no brains to think that anyone should stay in the Ultra vs move to the Encore+.

I wish the company would try to get something in the IBB to prevent guys from moving to the ultra to encore, encore plus, or 400xp and only to allow you to move up to the excel or higher once you're a captain in one of those airplanes.

If that made it in there, you'd guarantee yourself commuting to your domicile until at least 2010, because it would never pass.

Some people just have no clue.


BTW - RP170, welcome aboard!

 

[popgoesbubble]

Ultra Grump

You make valid points about the Crappy little Ultra I can't disagree with you on any of those things. However, Why not go from the Ultra to say an Excel or a 800xp or an 800xpc or a CE 750 or a CE680 or a G-200 of a Falcon 2000?

When I saw a guy with a High 200# on the senority list bid to go to the encore+ from the Ultra it just doesn't make any sense anyone in the High 500# can hold almost any of these fleet types. you can't say QOL because being in the top #200 here your doing pretty well. lets just face it most of these guys haven't flown anything bigger then an Ultra and are legends in there own mind.

Oh btw RP170 welcome on board and if you get the Citation X watch out for CE750Driver. He likes is FO's Young and if you find him walking behind you and say you drop your Avtrip card on the ramp it's best just to leave it. Oh that and I hear he likes to request connecting rooms on the overnight.

 

[bosdrx]

I find it interesting that with all this stuff going on, they still say in the interview that upgrade is only 24 months. It's quite a discrepancy. Shouldn't they be honest and say "3 to 5 years" or whatever it is? But then, maybe no one would take the job. Just thinkin out loud....

 

[woota]

Still waiting for the assignment also

RP170 I interviewed on the 2nd and I am still waiting for the assignment also. I spoke to one other person who interviewed on the same date and he had the same story.

 

[NJA bound]

I find it interesting that with all this stuff going on, they still say in the interview that upgrade is only 24 months. It's quite a discrepancy. Shouldn't they be honest and say "3 to 5 years" or whatever it is? But then, maybe no one would take the job. Just thinkin out loud....

Yep, this is my 24th month and I'm 150#s (roughly another year) from upgrade.

 

[Allen1]

What a dumb-ass thing to say. Let's see: Ultra with no TCAS, crappy Honeywell avionics, weaker engines, and boots; vs Encore+ with TCAS (worth the switch alone), Collins ProLine 21 (also worth the switch alone), more powerful engines, and hot wing. No brainer. Of course you must have no brains to think that anyone should stay in the Ultra vs move to the Encore+.

If that made it in there, you'd guarantee yourself commuting to your domicile until at least 2010, because it would never pass.

Some people just have no clue.


BTW - RP170, welcome aboard!

Sorry but I already have HBA.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I find it interesting that with all this stuff going on, they still say in the interview that upgrade is only 24 months. It's quite a discrepancy. Shouldn't they be honest and say "3 to 5 years" or whatever it is? But then, maybe no one would take the job. Just thinkin out loud....

I wonder if some people aren't asking the wrong question or perhaps misinterpreting the answer. For instance, at one point last fall or so, it was factual to say that the most junior Excel captain had been here just over 2 years. One could misinterpret that to mean that upgrade on the Excel is 2 years. However, that ignores the hiring cycle that took place in 2004 and the rate of ongoing upgrades in the Excel or a lack thereof.

I do wish that people got realistic upgrade projections during the interview. It might help people like Allen1 and popgoesbubble to make their decisions on employment with a better picture of how long they'll have to wait to upgrade.

 

[Allen1]

Lets see guys leaving from the 400xp which has TCAS, Collins avionics and a hotwing. Why don't they go to the excel. The excel also has TCAS, Honeywell FMZ, hot wing and as far as I can tell goes almost everywhere the ultra goes plus they make more money.